Silver and Black Radio Podcast Mid Season Breakdown #raiders #nfl #podcast

Summary

In this episode of the Silver and Black Radio podcast, host Raider Wil, along with guests Tony Bova and Krista Maestas, discuss the disappointing performance of the Raiders this season. They reflect on the team's struggles, coaching challenges, and the emotional state of the players. The conversation shifts to the importance of the upcoming games, particularly against the Jaguars, and what the team needs to do to secure a victory. Predictions for the game and community engagement events are also highlighted, emphasizing the need for fan support and team unity.

Takeaways

The Raiders have faced significant disappointments this season.
Expectations were high with new coaching and veteran players.
Coaching staff's performance is under scrutiny.
The team lacks passion and intensity on the field.
Mental and emotional state of the team is concerning.
Reflection during the bye week is crucial for improvement.
Upcoming games are seen as must-win situations.
Keys to victory include offensive line performance and play calling.
Predictions for the Jaguars game vary among fans.
Community support and events are vital for fan engagement.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Season Overview
02:52 Disappointments and Expectations
06:06 Coaching and Team Identity
09:00 Mental and Emotional State of the Team
11:59 Reflections on Bye Week and Future Outlook
24:33 Coaching Reflections and Leadership Challenges
28:52 Player Belief and Team Morale
32:45 Must-Win Game Against Jacksonville
36:17 Keys to Victory for the Raiders
40:31 Player Accountability and Performance Expectations
44:11 Score Predictions and MVP Choices
47:52 Upcoming Events and Community Engagement
54:00 Fan Questions and Closing Thoughts

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction season overview
• 2:52 Disappointment and expectations
• 6:06 Coaching and Team Identity
• 9:00 Mental and Emotional State of the Team
• 11:59 Reflections on Bye Week and Future Outlook
• 24:33 Coaching Reflections and Leadership Challenges
• 28:52 Player Belief and Team Morale
• 32:45 Must Win Game Against Jacksonville
• 36:17 Keys to Victory Raiders
• 40:31 Player Accountability and Performance Expectations
• 44:11 Score Predictions and MVP Choices
• 47:52 Upcoming Events and Community Engagement
• 54:00 Fan Questions and Closing Thoughts

Transcript

Raider Wil (00:01.957)
And welcome back to the Silver and Black Radio podcast. I'm your host, Raider Will. And today, guys, we are going to talk the Chief's shellacking that they just gave us. We're going to talk about the bye week. We're going to talk about Denver. And we got a couple of special guests today. So make sure that you guys stay locked in and let's get ready to go, baby.

Tony Bova (00:04.558)
Okay. you

Okay.

Raider Wil (01:00.173)
What up my people so hey already heard SSJ baby, it's all about the Raiders and today baby. I got some special guest coming back representing tbh Spokane We got our boy Tony Bova

Tony Bova (01:14.925)
Okay.

Raider Wil (01:30.021)
How are you today my brother?

Tony Bova (01:30.027)
Let's go, baby!

Tony Bova (01:37.933)
Man, just living life, man, doing good, how about you?

Raider Wil (01:40.687)
Good, good, good. And representing TBH Denver is our sis, Krista Mastas. How are you sis?

Krista Maestas (01:54.177)
What's up guys? I'm doing good. Thanks for the invite. Appreciate it. Happy to be here.

Raider Wil (01:59.781)
Yes sir. So hey guys today we got a great show lined up. We're going to let you guys know what we think is going on with the Raiders. Lots of stuff to talk about. Honestly man I wish we were talking in a better situation right? But man guys this is tough this season. We were just talking about it in the green room. Yo.

We cannot buy a win and we can't get it together. Guys, give me your evaluation of the writer season. What's the biggest disappointment for you guys so far this year? Then let me know. Krista, I'm gonna start with you because you are our special guest and not like Tony and old timer. So sis, let us know.

Tony Bova (02:47.996)
Right, right, right?

Krista Maestas (02:48.791)
Hold.

So I think the biggest disappointment and just from talking to other members and other fans was that expectation of bringing in a new veteran coach, veteran quarterback. I know we might not go undefeated, but I did want at least a 500 year or something close. Seeing some development and unfortunately just the heavy disappointment and the way coaching and playing, it's been tough.

Tony Bova (03:16.668)
Okay. Okay.

Krista Maestas (03:22.365)
sitting back and watching literally we have zero offensive line like it's been tough watching you know what we're bringing those guys in what they could do for the organization and the Raiders and our fans and watching it is you know it's it's heartbreaking you know it's it's even hard to visually watch so you know that those are one of my my takeaways is you know all these promises and I get it you know new coach we're building we're rebuilding I get it

You know, I just expected a little more.

Raider Wil (03:55.905)
Okay, Tony Bova, biggest disappointment so far.

Tony Bova (04:01.46)
Man, it's a, I just got done watching, I think it was one of the major leagues, the movie Major Leagues, and in that movie he says, you have no marbles. And like, they just are not playing with a passionate intensity like Max Crosby is on the defensive side of the ball. Like, I'm not saying they all gotta get hyped like that, but they're not playing with no.

There's no passion in their play. mean, and they're just kind of like if you've coached or seen like a youth football game and it doesn't go their way, they start like huffing and puffing and they start slacking and their shoulders. You can read it in their body mannerisms. And these guys just are not playing passionate football. And that's the 100 % most disappointing thing to watch is because I don't care if we lose. I mean, yes, I want to win, but like the effort.

And your attitude is the two things you can control in the game. And we're just not seeing it.

Raider Wil (05:03.033)
Yo, Tony and Krista, cannot disagree with you guys one bit. I'm gonna tell you right now what I think about the season.

Tony Bova (05:14.731)
Yeah

Raider Wil (05:16.901)
I bought the juice. I bought what they were selling, man. I was like, yes, Pete Carroll, we finally did it the right way. We're getting all these right pieces together. And man, we just come out there and we just are the freaking comical. We're comical, bro. We can't even get anybody together. Our line is inconsistent. We have so many failures at so many different levels.

Tony Bova (05:42.612)
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Raider Wil (05:46.201)
that it's really sad and it's a really difficult thing to see, especially out there on the field, man. I really do think that there's been a lot of disappointment. So for me, it's been the coaching staff, right? Because you come in and you say, we're going to win and we're going to win a lot and we're going to do this. And what I'm seeing right now is not a lot of winning. And I'm not seeing a lot of people out there saying, hey, man, I believe in this coaching staff.

Tony Bova (06:06.732)
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Raider Wil (06:12.983)
If there is somebody out there that believes in this cook, could you staff please let us know.

Tony Bova (06:18.56)
I think it's Pete Carroll. I think he believes in himself a little too much.

Raider Wil (06:23.525)
And I can see what you're saying there, right? You believe your own juice. You believe that, hey man, I can do this. But Pete said it. He came out in an interview and said, man, this is a lot bigger than I thought it was gonna be. This is a lot bigger situation. This is a lot tougher. But again, Pete, then why come out and say, hey, you know, I've done it at every other stop. So we're gonna do it here and we're gonna win big time and we're gonna do it again.

Can't do that, man. Can't do that. Because Raider Nation is going to hold you accountable.

Tony Bova (06:54.747)
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Especially when he's got, you know, he's got all this stuff, he won't pull the, like Gino should not have been playing all those games. I mean, I don't know if you put in Pickett, I don't know what you do, but you gotta try something. You can't just ride the sucker until the whole season's gone. You gotta make a move eventually. Like, something's gotta change. And I mean, I don't know, like I know he's got, you know, ties to Gino, now he's got ties to Tyler Lockett.

Krista Maestas (07:05.899)
Yeah, exactly.

Tony Bova (07:27.656)
Yay. But when are you really going to put that aside and say, I'm trying to put the team first and go with something different? You got to try something.

Raider Wil (07:29.081)
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Krista Maestas (07:41.89)
Yeah, agree. We're at a point right now where, I mean, we cannot lose any more games to even be considered any kind of contingency. mean, you have to make a change. And if you keep doing the same thing, right, what's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. You cannot continue with Geno Smith. We all know he's in there to win it.

But throw something else in there. Let the players experience, let the fans experience. I mean, you gotta change it up. Just doing the same thing over and over again, and kinda just pissing everybody off.

Tony Bova (08:13.994)
Mark my words on this. Watch this. When Gino gets benched and you're at your viewing spot, watch the energy change when Kenny Pickett comes in the game. Or AOC. Watch how excited they're going to be again because there's a change in the direction.

Krista Maestas (08:32.12)
Yeah, Guaranteed.

Tony Bova (08:42.314)
Once that bed scene comes, watch your viewings. I mean, you're gonna see your energy just be like, come up, watch.

Raider Wil (08:51.659)
I would tend to agree with you, right now, man, way that Kenny Pickett came in the game last game just to fumble the ball, it was really tough to watch that.

Tony Bova (09:00.914)
Right, right, no, I'm not saying the results are gonna be different, but there's something gonna be different because the guy's gonna be a totally different person back there. I mean, he probably might make all the other mistakes that we got. But guess what? Hell, there are new mistakes. Let's go, something. It's something different on the field. Like change something, try something.

Krista Maestas (09:02.862)
That was tough to watch.

Raider Wil (09:22.181)
I got you, got you. So let me ask you guys this. Have the Raiders shown any consistency or a consistency or identity this year for you guys?

Tony Bova (09:33.492)
Consistently bad.

Raider Wil (09:36.036)
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Krista Maestas (09:36.856)
Yeah, I mean, the defense, you know what I mean? You gotta hand it to the guys. They're out on that field a lot. Max Crosby is a consistent leader when it comes to things like that. And he's out there and even when he's not on the field, he is consistently trying to motivate the offense when he's on the sidelines, saying, hey man, I got your back, go out there and do something. So that's about all I have for consistency.

Tony Bova (09:37.086)
Nah.

Tony Bova (09:45.278)
Thank

Tony Bova (09:58.964)
Okay.

Tony Bova (10:05.249)
Yeah.

Krista Maestas (10:06.35)
consistent interceptions.

Raider Wil (10:07.459)
You know what? I love what you were saying, right? It's hard. So when I looked at that question and I said, have the Raiders shown any consistency or identity this season? No, we have shown only the identity that we are a bad team.

Bad. And I'd be like, not that we can't get things together or defensively we haven't made stops or anything like that. But when you look at the totality of the games and the totality of our defense, bro, we're not getting turnovers. Our offense can't get first downs. I mean, let's just look at the Chiefs game. We got 30 plays on offense. I don't know about your guys' bar, but my bar, when you only got 30 plays on offense.

Krista Maestas (10:43.565)
Yeah.

Raider Wil (10:55.841)
I mean like people weren't even watching the game anymore.

Tony Bova (11:00.424)
I'll tell you what about the second quarter. We really had a good time socializing Like we were chilling and we had a great time, but I couldn't I had to go back and rewatch highlights of the game which was a very short video, but it I like you just lose interest sometimes when you're in there when you see that constant lack of

Krista Maestas (11:06.766)
It's true. I'm like, you know what?

Tony Bova (11:30.172)
whatever it's lacking, can put insert lacking anything behind it numerous times. But, and then you're watching other teams and you're just going, how are we literally like, how are we not, how did we not like score something? You know I mean? Like, where's that? Like it just, was no passion to like, let's get it field goal range and just kick that sucker and get something like there was just nothing.

Raider Wil (11:59.237)
and they're with you. You know, I'm there 100%. So I'm going to move on to my next question for you guys, which is how has the team looked mentally and emotionally through these first nine games to you guys? I'm going to start with Tony on this one.

Krista Maestas (11:59.308)
Yeah, very disappointing.

Tony Bova (12:21.352)
The emotion I see is from the Max Crosby side of the defensive side of the ball.

Raider Wil (12:28.163)
No, no, how has the team looked mentally and emotionally? The team, not just one player, the team.

Tony Bova (12:32.336)
Tony Bova (12:38.684)
I I can't see it. I don't see, it's just blank to me almost. There's like no, they're there doing the motions. It's almost like they're sleepwalking. I don't see much, much out of them. And that's what's frustrating, but.

Krista Maestas (12:55.598)
Yeah, that's a problem. Anger, frustration, nobody's out there having a good time. You know, I mean, you can't win football games not being able to motivate each other, you know, in every aspect. So, I mean, yeah, there's the emotions are, you know, definitely not positive. It's all negative, all of it.

Raider Wil (12:57.391)
Yeah.

Tony Bova (13:19.335)
If they were just as parsley as intense as we are about this situation, we would be really good. And they should be thousand times more than us because they're the ones actually on the field doing it. But like, they just seem like we're more passionate about change in Raider Nation than the players are. And that is not gonna be successful in any avenue of football when the fans have more passion than the players.

Raider Wil (13:47.129)
I'm going to put it like this, I really feel like they've checked out. I feel like some players have literally checked out. I think that they're in a place where it's almost like purgatory, right? We talk about, we should be in a winning position. We should be far ahead. We should be, the Predator is in the house. salute, family.

Tony Bova (14:15.591)
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Raider Wil (14:17.069)
Love you brother. TBH Albuquerque. Yes, sir. Yo, but the team is in purgatory. The team doesn't have an identity. They don't know what to do. I'd be like, if you look at us in that game versus the Chiefs, tell me that felt like a rivalry. Tell me those guys came out on fire and said, we're going to win this game. No, bro. We came out and we looked flat. We look scared.

We look like we didn't even belong on the same field as the Chiefs.

Tony Bova (14:51.377)
Let's it.

Raider Wil (14:53.711)
So.

Krista Maestas (14:53.838)
Yeah, it was disappointing in all aspects. Man, that was a hard game. I don't think anybody really watched that from opening kick to the final. There's no way you can mentally, there's no way I could mentally watch that shit. It was crazy.

Tony Bova (14:55.983)
Okay.

Raider Wil (15:12.911)
Well, it-

Tony Bova (15:13.391)
No, I went out. I went out. I mean, I did. I checked on everybody in the viewing area, had conversations with everybody. I went outside. Like, I did everything to make the situation of what we were doing in Spokane pleasant, I guess you could say, because we can't watch the game. I mean, a lot of people waited to the very end, but they weren't paying attention to the game to the very end for sure, because we were hanging out. We were talking.

Krista Maestas (15:15.864)
Yeah.

Tony Bova (15:43.367)
how mad it was. yeah, it definitely was interesting. It was not a game at all. was socializing.

Raider Wil (15:53.283)
All right, well, let me ask you guys this last question on this transition or in this segment here. So in this segment, my last question for this one is going to be, was the loss to the Chiefs rock bottom or just another bad week? And let me start with Krista.

Krista Maestas (16:14.786)
You know, no, I don't think it was rock bottom. You know, I think that coming off of this bye week and after that huge loss to the Chiefs, you know, these guys really have to take it. The professionals, they can't be at a rock bottom position. I do believe that we will go out there and perform. I pray that we're going to go out there and perform on Sunday, being on our home field.

Tony Bova (16:41.478)
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Krista Maestas (16:42.926)
And I'm really hoping that this is gonna be a turnaround. Kansas City, it was pretty bad, but I don't know if he could get any worse. So, I mean, it's gotta turn around. It's gotta turn around from this point. So in my opinion, positive looking for here on out. And of course, that game coming up with Denver, which is really big for us here.

Tony Bova (16:55.301)
Okay. Okay.

Krista Maestas (17:11.438)
You know, we definitely gonna turn it around.

Raider Wil (17:13.814)
let's go, let's go. Yo, Tony Boba is the Chiefs game the rock bottom for the Raiders.

Tony Bova (17:23.073)
No, you said this team is in Purgatory a second ago. I would say Purgatory is rock bottom. So like we've been kind of mulling on the bottom. So I see it as just another bad game, but it's a string of bad games together that is weighing the season down together. So you can't just put it on one game because that effort was pretty crappy, but we've seen pretty crappy effort and more, you know, like we've seen other

bad effort out there this season. So it's not, maybe the results might have been better, but the effort is just kind of mulling on the bottom. I believe that is part of a bigger rock bottom problem in the year. So I would say it's just another horrible game.

Raider Wil (18:11.897)
So I hope it's rock bottom. Because if we played Denver, and the way that Denver is playing right now.

Well, we might catch all the smoke in the mile high city and not the smoke that everybody likes to catch the smoke from the Broncos. So I mean, like, and that's where it's difficult to say, right? Is this rock bottom for the writers? I don't think so. I think we still, know, I think if we can get by the Broncos.

Krista Maestas (18:33.358)
You

Krista Maestas (18:37.294)
Yeah, yeah.

Raider Wil (18:50.019)
And we look good then yeah, we hit rock bottom with the Chiefs and we're on our way up. But if we can't get it together in these next two games, man, I mean like, hey guys, we better be prepared for a two and and 15 season. And that's gonna be tough. But.

Tony Bova (19:11.941)
No, that's it's yeah, it's Not looking that way but it would be surprised

Results, maybe the wins and the losses will come with a better effort. Like, I mean, I say losses and wins because you're gonna, hopefully there's no losses in the season because there's winning and learning. Like, but they're just not learning enough to make the changes into wins. So maybe the effort might get better. Maybe you'll see more passion out there, hopefully. Maybe that will result in some better wins. But man, I just hope they go down swinging like.

Try, like, do something.

Raider Wil (19:57.359)
No, absolutely, Tone. I got you, my brother. hey, man, no doubt about it. We hope that this isn't the rock bottom, but we hope we get out of it. We hope that we keep moving on. But, let me ask you guys some questions here. I know that we were in the bye week after that. So what do you guys think happened during that bye week? I'll be like, I'm going to ask you guys, like, hey, do you think the team was just resting, reflection, regrouping? What do you think was going on in that locker room? And...

what the coaches were doing, what the players were doing. Give me you guys insight on that. And I'll start with Tony.

Tony Bova (20:35.275)
I hope they were looking at all the social media forums that they could see and look at the Raider Nation's

comments that you see online and just be embarrassed of That was that was that was crazy like we've been talking about it for what it's crazy and so like maybe they can see How crazy it is then go you know what? But we can't be I can't have you know I gotta try harder like maybe they can motivate themselves with those those negative comments

hopefully it doesn't go the wrong way and bring him away even further down though so it's kind of a double-edged sword on that side so

Raider Wil (21:21.379)
All right, sis.

Krista Maestas (21:22.06)
Yeah, it's got to be reflection, right? I mean, these guys, some of them have been playing for years, and they cannot lead by example and just beat each other up. know, it's going to be another game next week. It's going to be another playbook to study. It's going to be, we got to keep moving on. We cannot reflect, can't keep going backward. And I'm really that, I really hope that was the conversation that they had in that locker room, you know, keep it professional.

And, you know, people have to say, you know, this can't happen again. You know, we need to fix this. We need to do it together. And, you I'm really hoping that kind of that kind of conversation happened. I'm really hoping that, you know, Tom Brady all the way down, they come back and they're like, look, we got your back. You know, we as coaches also need to regroup and figure this shit out so that, you know, as a team, as an organization, you know, they need to get their shit together and figure it out.

Tony Bova (22:14.531)
My heart almost stopped when she said, my heart almost stopped when she said Tom Brady come back in the same sentence. I missed her for a second. kind of, I kind of said, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that.

Krista Maestas (22:19.735)
But they can't do it like, you know, tears in your beers. They gotta be motivated that we are on the way to make things right. Somehow, someway, they gotta make it right.

Raider Wil (22:31.245)
No, absolutely. I'm going to tell you.

Krista Maestas (22:38.188)
I mean it. No. No. This is Nate's money.

Tony Bova (22:44.205)
But it can't be the worst.

Right, right?

Raider Wil (22:49.963)
just so you know, Krista, Predator will be bringing you a patch when he comes up to Denver. Says he can't wait to be in Denver, by the way. Yeah. So I'm going to tell you right now, Tony, this is what Pete Carroll was doing on the bye week.

Krista Maestas (22:56.808)
right on, brother! Nice!

Raider Wil (23:09.529)
We need players, aisle six. Raiders players, please line up. Offensive linemen over here, defensive linemen over here. Anybody that can just come and play, please come to us. Bro, he was doing it. Now he was trying to get people together. He was trying to do everything because I'm telling you right now, there's a lot of things going on, man.

Krista Maestas (23:22.997)
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Raider Wil (23:33.913)
There's a lot of reflection. There's a lot of things because I'm telling you right now, I know that people are not happy. People are going like, hey, why is are we not having success? Why did we spend six million dollars to get three first downs? And Chip Kelly's probably like, guys, I'm ready. I'll have the team fired up. I'm Chip Kelly, offensive guru. Well, that's things that have to happen.

Tony Bova (24:02.067)
Thank

Raider Wil (24:03.905)
And I'll tell you guys, I'll be like, all these things have to happen. mean, like we have to get lit up. We have to have some sort of want some sort of need. So when you go and say, hey, we got reflection. Absolutely. If I'm the coach, I'm reflecting, I'm seeing what I'm doing wrong. I want to talk to my players. I want to read, gel the team. If I'm looking at JPJ, I'm apologizing for all this bullshit that I'm putting you through.

Krista Maestas (24:04.462)
What?

Tony Bova (24:15.414)
you

Raider Wil (24:33.603)
because I'm not doing my job. And that's where I'm like, hey, I hope that he's looking at his coaching staff. I hope that he's looking at things. this is going to lead into my next question. All right, guys? If you are the head coach, what's the first thing you're fixing? And I'm going to start with Krista.

Tony Bova (24:43.617)
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Krista Maestas (24:54.35)
As a head coach, I think you have to reflect on on yourself, right? How is your leadership, you know, in anybody that is either been in like a leadership or manager position, you know, you're only as good as the team, but these people look up to you. You know, you need to figure out how they're going to react. You know, what what is it going to take for him Pete Carroll to change so that people react to him and, you know, show him, hey, man, we do want to play for you.

Tony Bova (24:57.57)
Okay. Okay.

Krista Maestas (25:23.586)
You know, cause I don't know if he's getting any of that and that's gotta be, you know, number one thing. Like we were talking about before when you, cannot keep Dino Smith in there. We love the guy. I know you love him, but show the players that you're, that you're, you know, that you're ready to adapt and that you need to accept change. Change needs to happen. And I, you know, his players need to do that. So if I was Pete Carroll, you gotta work on yourself and you gotta do some things, man.

Tony Bova (25:27.585)
you

Raider Wil (25:37.541)
you

Krista Maestas (25:52.917)
You're not gonna get the buy-in.

Raider Wil (25:55.866)
Okay, Predator says O-line and play calling. So Tony Bova, what's the first thing you're fixing?

Tony Bova (26:06.186)
Man.

I think you got to shore up the offensive line. I'm not saying that he's, he is rushed quite a bit. And if he's already making bad decisions, we really need to give him as much time as possible. So like, you got to open up those holes for Gentile to be able to run through. You got to get, I know Bowers has been hurt. So you got to get him.

Raider Wil (26:43.973)
Tony?

Okay, Tony froze up on us. We'll see what happens. But all right, the first thing that I'm fixing, if we get this done, right, the first thing I'm looking at is saying, hey, I actually have to look at my coaching staff. I have to look at the guys that are in charge that there's not giving us the continuity upfront that's making us have problems, right? So when I look at that, I say, hey, you know what?

Krista Maestas (26:47.662)
He's frozen.

Raider Wil (27:17.221)
And let me switch this up because I have to look I'm coming in that locker room sis and I'm telling you like this Son I'm talking to Nate Carroll and I'm talking to Brennan Carroll and I'm going like Shit together that that's exactly the way I'm talking to them because honestly that

They can't get it together. We're having a lot of issues and I'm getting feedback from other people saying, hey, you're not doing your job. And when things like that happen, that means I need to make changes. And I'm either going to fire your ass because if it's my son or me, I love my son to death, but I am not going to sit here and put my head coaching job and get fired because my son can't handle his stuff.

And that's how the way I feel. don't know about you, sis. mean, like, I know that we've struggled in a lot of phases, but I really do feel like, like it's the sons, you know, like they are in a position and and we're struggling there.

Krista Maestas (28:18.509)
Yeah, man.

Krista Maestas (28:29.774)
Yeah, he needs to make changes. He needs to let go of those things that he loved, know, and best efforts for the team.

Raider Wil (28:38.175)
Absolutely. All right. And let's go on to the next question here, sis. Do you still believe in the, or do you think the players still believe in the system or have the players checked out of the locker room?

Krista Maestas (28:52.27)
You know, I do think that they still believe, you know, we still have some games left. You know, we still have a good half season. So, you know, I do believe that a lot of them are willing to stick it through, you know, and, you know, we're going to finish out this season with the bank and that they're still, you know, they're still hoping there. I don't think that they've given up. I know that there was talk about, you know, Myers and him wanting to leave and all this stuff, but, you know, he's sticking around.

So there is hope there. I don't think that the players have given up. think we're halfway through it. We have to start winning some football games. That's what comes down to it.

Raider Wil (29:34.467)
Okay. Hey, Tony. So we moved on to the next question and it was like, if you're do you still believe? Do you think the Tony, can you hear me? Okay, it says do players. Do you think the players still believe in the system or has the locker room checked out?

Tony Bova (29:44.172)
I froze again.

Yeah, I can hear you now. I'm good.

Tony Bova (30:00.106)
believe they checked out because just the effort. mean, if they believe in the system, they'd be having a little more effort. Kind of like...

Tony Bova (30:12.008)
We were saying, I was saying earlier with the lack of passion, if there's no passion, you're pretty much out anyways, checked out mentally. like, cause you need your passion in your game to succeed. Like they know that cause they've been doing it for years. Like, but yeah, a hundred percent checked out. They've checked up the deuces and been outro for a minute. So.

Raider Wil (30:37.637)
No, absolutely. And GeoMix is in the building, baby, with Raiders. Raiders! Let's go, baby. You already know what the business is, man. But I'm going to tell you like this, Do I think the players still believe in the system or have they checked out of the locker room? I don't believe all the players have checked in out of the locker room, but I'm telling you right now, if we continue in this manner, they are going to check out quickly because we are struggling.

Krista Maestas (31:04.611)
Yeah.

Raider Wil (31:06.18)
We don't have to seem to have any continuity, any answers. And when you see your offensive line struggling, and you see these guys had success at the end of the net last year, and then you come in and you keep changing things.

Raider Wil (31:23.521)
I really feel like the players are gonna check out. And this is where I'm like, hey, you saw it in this last game. Tell me that team is a team that's locked in. Tell me that's a team that's ready to go. No.

That team looks like, hey man, we look like a third grade team. I was telling Matt, was like, man, you should get your sixth grade team, suit them up in some Raider suits and we can put them out there and they're gonna do the same damn thing for less damn money. So people can't tell me that these players have not checked out. NGO says there's 26 players on a one year contract this year.

Tony Bova (31:44.94)
Beats.

Raider Wil (32:07.365)
Looking like a rebuild. But my thing is this. I'm like if you have 26 players on a one year contract there should be 26 guys fighting like dogs to get a contract.

Why are they not doing this? And if you're if they're acting like this and when your team's like this, this is where the problem lies. Like I said, but all right, guys, let's move on to this Jacksonville game. I'm going to ask you guys here some questions on this Jacksonville game. Is this game a must win for the Raiders? Krista.

Tony Bova (32:28.681)
you

Krista Maestas (32:45.95)
hands down. I mean, moving forward, especially when they come out to Denver, it is a must win. Just rapport alone for the Raider Nation. We got to win this game coming off a bye week. I mean, I know we can't look much worse than we did against Kansas City, but we cannot have those same results. cannot. You know, I mean, it's got it. We can't have zero points. You know, we.

Tony Bova (32:56.265)
you

Krista Maestas (33:14.978)
We got it. mean, being blown out, horrible. It can't be like that. This is a must win game, 100%.

Raider Wil (33:17.541)
So.

Raider Wil (33:24.375)
All right. Tony B.

Tony Bova (33:28.266)
I mean, every game is must win. Every game needs to be like you're fighting for your playoff life even though we might be obviously overlooking at that time. But we have to extend drives this weekend and keep the ball moving in a positive direction.

Because when we move the, and the drives move forward, you extend the drives, it seems to pick up some of the belief in the system. You you're going to build some more, hey, because you fought extended time during this game, even though you're in the same amount of game the whole time with everybody anyways, but you'll see your shoulder to shoulder, you're fighting. Okay, cool. I see you. I see you. And you know, now you want them to see you. So like,

You're going to be challenged. You extend those drives, get that ball out there, that, build that passion.

Raider Wil (34:31.949)
I'm gonna tell you guys like this. Hell yeah, this game is a must win for the Raiders because I do not see any other place on the schedule where we're going to get wins like this. Okay. This team isn't playing on its top top. Trevor Lawrence is struggling. Hunter is coming into his own, but if we don't learn how to stop this man, we are screwed. I don't see anything in the past, right? Or to get past this team. I don't see this team as a team that we can't be.

Tony Bova (34:58.825)
Raider Wil (35:01.679)
But if we can't beat this team, Tony, we're gonna go into Thursday playing the Broncos while they're hot?

Raider Wil (35:12.249)
I'd be like, think about it. I'd be like, it is a must win now again. Maybe not a must win, but a must fight game. A game where we show some fight, a game where we show some willpower, a game where we run the football, where we get first downs, where we make some stuff happen. Cause if not, man, I'm gonna tell you like this. Pete's gonna be sitting here at Walmart like this. Hey guys, I'm looking for a job. Pete Carroll here, aisle five. Come pick me up.

Tony Bova (35:36.328)
Okay.

Raider Wil (35:42.895)
Cuz the Raiders are gonna put him on sale. And I don't think the Raiders are get rid of him, but I'm telling you right now, man, he's gonna be in the hot seat. It's not gonna be comfortable. It's gonna make it so that way. I'm telling you right now, if we don't see Jacobi Myers play this weekend, by the way, as well, I'm concerned. I'm looking at a trade part. They're already looking at it. But if he plays, then it changes. I don't like that. But.

Tony Bova (36:00.967)
you

Tony Bova (36:06.213)
yeah, for sure, 100%.

Raider Wil (36:09.613)
Alright, let's move forward man. Hey Crystal, what are your keys to victory for the Raiders versus the Jaguars?

Krista Maestas (36:17.134)
You know, we got to stop the defense the offensive line needs to really step up their game They got to provide enough protection. You're like you said before the man already already has problems trying to you know, hit that hit that route so You know, I mean like, you know, they said Brock Bauer just come coming back, you know Really get Jacobi Myers involved in the game our offense right now. I know

People always say defense wins games, you know, I get that. But our offense needs to score some points. We have to score some points. We cannot have that big old donut or, you know, kick and field goals. We got to make touchdowns. That's how we're going to win. We got to make touchdowns. It has to. It has to be like that.

Raider Wil (37:03.877)
All right, Tony B.

Tony Bova (37:08.647)
play calling needs to have them guessing and not just going, okay, they're throwing it to Bowers. I'm going to shut that down, force them to go somewhere else and somewhere else is not going to be there. Thornton, get them some looks. Betch, bring him in. Like some, like we got to have variety and keep them guessing. Get these guys involved, more guys involved than just

Yo, Genty, Genty, Bowers, Myers, know, over here, Tucker, every once in a while. We gotta get more variety in our play calling and get people looks to find out what's gonna work. And then when we find what works, they gotta be able to continue to execute. So they gotta just figure it out on the fly, probably, obviously. But we gotta find it and run with it. But the variety's gotta be there.

Raider Wil (38:05.981)
I am with sis. We need to protect Jito Smith and we need to give Gentie some running lanes. So O-line, you need to play like the big boys and suit up and strap up and make it happen, baby. I'm going to tell you like this. A good offensive line is a remedy for a lot of things. And a bad offense is definitely one of them.

Run the football use Gentie use powers in the play action game Use your receivers in the play action game move the pocket with Geno Smith On defense we need to stop playing scared I'm gonna tell you like this Fuck your cover three, okay this whole cover three

Because that's some pussy ball. We need to man up, we need to go, hey, you know what? This is what we do, we play a hybrid. We play some man, we play some zone. We go in there, we try to confuse the quarterback, we try to do different things. But this whole playing a soft zone and saying, hey, you know what? These are the corners you chose. These are the players you chose to have there. You gotta let them make mistakes, let it ride.

Tony Bova (39:20.666)
Okay.

Raider Wil (39:33.379)
But to have a dumbed down defense and then be like, you know what? On offense, we're just going to play vanilla. That's the problem. We can't do shit because we can't block. And I'll be like, on defense, we're going to have to do two things. We're going to have to contain the Jags run game and confuse Trevor Lawrence. And I'm going to tell you which one's easier right now.

Tony Bova (39:38.406)
No. Okay.

Raider Wil (40:01.581)
Stop, it's confusing Trevor Lawrence. Cause stopping that run game is tough. They average five yards of carry.

Raider Wil (40:11.205)
So I'd be like, that's gonna be the biggest differences for me and those are my keys, right? So I'm gonna ask you guys one, pick one player. Who needs to step up this week? And Krista, I'm gonna start with you. I want you to challenge this player. I need to know who you think needs to stand up and make a play or make it happen. Yep.

Krista Maestas (40:31.626)
Geno Smith, Geno Smith, they're gonna start Geno Smith. He needs to step up like quarterbacks are supposed to be leading the people on the field, right? He needs to show that he can divide his offense, know, utilize numerous players, you know, get Gentie the ball, make some moves, run around a little bit, you know, make some smart calls. I mean, if he needs to do some change in play calling.

Tony Bova (40:32.454)
And.

Okay.

Krista Maestas (41:00.098)
then do what you gotta do to make it happen, Gino. But you need to step up. It's that time. I wanna see results. I think everybody else does too.

Raider Wil (41:10.469)
All right, Tony B.

Tony Bova (41:14.058)
We were talking offensive line and getting the run game going. So I would say JPJ in the middle, it's got to get that identity in that them. Like when he, when he came out of college, we were so excited about getting that, that gritty lineman.

Like that was going to be like ripping heads off and just tearing it up. Get that back, get that identity back and build that. So JBJ needs to establish that dog back in that offensive line and start taking those guys that just run right by him, like start getting pissed off that they're making you look like they are. And start, you gotta establish.

that run game and it starts with the middle. So let's go.

Raider Wil (42:05.375)
All right, yeah. So, and I'm gonna tell you right now, Ronnie, and I'm agreeing with Ronnie and I'm agreeing with Crystal. Ronnie says, Geno Smith. Geno Smith.

I need to challenge you right now bro. hope you're listening. I hope you guys get this thing into the hype stream. Push that little hype stream right there in the little comment session if you're on YouTube. Put it into the stream bro. Geno Smith you need to get your stuff together bro. You need to get up and eat your breakfast sandwich. Get mentally ready. You know that you're going to be pursued. You know it's going to be a tough game. But get in there. Have some webbles. Grow up and make sure that you're not turning over the ball.

Tony Bova (42:31.652)
you you

Raider Wil (42:47.789)
Throw it to the same guys in the same color uniform, baby. I mean we're silver and black It's very hard to miss you don't have to throw it into double or triple team Throw it into the guys that are wide open with nobody around them. If nobody's there use your legs extend the play Gino we need you baby. We don't need the Gino Smith from the Jets. We need the Gino Smith from the Sea Chickens

Tony Bova (43:01.796)
Okay. Okay.

Raider Wil (43:17.549)
So bring that sea chicken ass over here and get to fucking butt to working man, cause we need the real Geno Smith to stand up. All right guys, now let me get a realistic score, an MVP prediction from you guys. And Tony, I'm going to start with you, bro.

Tony Bova (43:41.06)
24 17 Raiders MVP 2 touchdowns 1 rushing 1 receiving 146 yards Gentie He's gonna break he's gonna have a big game. So I hope someone wrote that down because when I come back and he has 146 yards It's gonna be crazy watch Please get 146 yards

Raider Wil (44:11.712)
Ha

Tony Bova (44:13.976)
That should be wild. That be wildin' out. Like, man, I'd go play the lotto right now.

Raider Wil (44:21.829)
Alright sis, so I want your score predictions and who do you think will be your MVP?

Krista Maestas (44:29.08)
So I think I was thinking of 21-17 Raiders and I'm really looking for Max to come back and pick six. Recovery from Bell, turn it in. You're really gonna have to mess up this old line. You're really gonna have to throw them off with all that hair. Grab a locket or two, do something, but you gotta throw off this Jacksonville offense and.

Raider Wil (44:41.503)
Wahoo! Woohoo!

Krista Maestas (44:57.944)
what makes it better than having a big defensive play.

Tony Bova (44:58.148)
Yeah.

Raider Wil (45:02.757)
Alright man, I really like the score. do. I mean like it seems really possible but I'm gonna go 21-14. And Gino Smith comes in at the end and throws an absolute dime to Tucker to break this skid. And I'm gonna tell you, it's gonna feel, this game's gonna be tight.

Tony Bova (45:04.548)
you

Raider Wil (45:27.301)
For me, it's gonna be like a fourth quarter win. He's gonna come in there in the fourth quarter and we get this win and I'm gonna tell you like this. Raider Nation still doesn't feel any better because we are now three and five.

Tony Bova (45:41.634)
What's crazy though is is I Would take any game-winning touchdown I would because there's a game win But please don't have it be Gino Smith to Tyler Lockett Dude I can't do that I can't I can't go back to that whole see y'all stuff again because then it's just gonna be just feeding all day long and not looking anywhere else so

Krista Maestas (45:43.02)
I'm gonna feel better.

Raider Wil (45:57.477)
Krista Maestas (45:58.702)
No.

Tony Bova (46:09.376)
Just get someone else get open. I don't care who it is. Put in Raider Will and that bitch and let him get open. Cause I'll tell you what, he probably would because they're like, who's this dude? Like, and he'd be wide open for the game. I take that right now. I mean, that's more feasible than having to listen to all the Seahawks fans in this area deal with the 12s and all that. I can't do that. So.

Raider Wil (46:12.557)
Yeah.

Krista Maestas (46:15.054)
you

Krista Maestas (46:33.783)
yeah, that's why you said that.

Raider Wil (46:37.349)
I see, yeah, that's kind of like, oh, yo. I'm gonna tell you guys something. I like this score by GeoMex. He puts Raiders 56, Jaguars 3. That's what my Xbox predicted.

Tony Bova (46:39.158)
So don't, anybody else.

Tony Bova (46:51.254)
Right? Hey, on my Xbox, I had a 98 yard pig sticks with Max Crosby this morning. So like, but I wish the Xbox was the bearer of the truth, but it just tells me that I really need to figure out something else to do on Saturday nights.

Krista Maestas (46:53.134)
When I win this, bro, that'd be sweet.

Raider Wil (47:10.181)
100 % and hey, we got Ronnie saying 24 17 Brock Bowers MVP 100 yards and a touchdown Nice but Guys now we are to the part of the show where we especially brought our sister Krista cuz she is the head of TBH Denver and she will be throwing the biggest blackout the mile-high city has seen

Tony Bova (47:18.21)
I'll take it.

Krista Maestas (47:19.766)
take it. Hell yeah.

Raider Wil (47:38.917)
from year to year and it seems to get bigger every year so Krista give us the info on what we got going on for the weekend of November the 6th.

Krista Maestas (47:52.01)
Well, thank you again for having me. You know, it's really big for us to be able to throw the big blackout parties and it does seem to be getting bigger every, every year. The last bar we were at, there wasn't enough room. We had to like, people were just piling outside. So this year we did it big. We have two bars located right outside of downtown Denver. It's going to get some hype there.

Tony Bova (47:52.706)
Okay. Okay.

Krista Maestas (48:20.302)
And one is a whiskey bar, which has an upstairs and a downstairs. And one is a cigar bar where people can mingle and, you know, do their little smoke thing. you know, we're going to be set up in there. We got a DJ. We got vendors that everybody's coming out. So I got people reaching out for me from Rochester, New York, all the way down to Baja, California. So.

Tony Bova (48:21.41)
Okay. you

Krista Maestas (48:47.928)
We usually always get a big crowd, so we're really, really looking forward to it. That's Wednesday night. That party starts at 7 p.m. So, you know, we're gonna be out and about and picking up people from the airport, doing a bunch of good stuff to make sure people feel welcome. So that's gonna be our Wednesday night blackout party to start off for this wonderful TNF game.

Tony Bova (48:48.721)
you you

Raider Wil (49:12.162)
Alright, so on Wednesday night, right, says you're saying the cigar what's the location the name of the cigar bar?

Krista Maestas (49:17.966)
Yeah, it's 2203 Larimer Street and it's actually like the corner spot. It's called the Whiskey Bar. Right next to it, it's called Las Palmas and that's a cigar bar. But they're sister bars, so right next to each other. And we got both of them. They're happy to have us.

Raider Wil (49:21.87)
Okay.

Raider Wil (49:26.681)
Okay.

Raider Wil (49:35.333)
GeoMix says shout out to Fort Collins both my daughters are born there. You know yeah man I'm like Albuquerque will be in the house they're saying so we'll have Albuquerque in the house as well and I'd be like

Tony Bova (49:39.88)
Okay. Okay.

Krista Maestas (49:42.358)
nice.

Krista Maestas (49:47.052)
Yes!

So that's what I'm talking about.

Raider Wil (49:51.779)
Guys, make sure that you guys stay locked in because I'm gonna tell you like this. TBH Denver throws some of the best tailgates, some of the best parties. So on Wednesday, make sure that you guys hit up the cigar lounge, go out to the whiskey bar, have some drinks, enjoy some crumb, what is it? Brotherhood, the comradery. Guys, 5280 used to get packed and I know a lot of people are a little disappointed that 5280 is not over.

Tony Bova (49:58.861)
you

Raider Wil (50:16.793)
but the city didn't give them their license back. So guys, hey, we have to do what we got to do. We got to move on. We got to do what we got to do. And she got a great location. The whiskey bar is located centrally right in Denver. It's going to be right off the 16th street mall, which is a great location. Now they just got it rebuilt and it's going to be a hell of a party. And then our sis, the next day is going to throw a huge tailgate starting at 2 PM.

starts for 25 bucks you can get your wristbands done TBH Denver this is what they do man this is how they raise the funds for that way you guys can have all you can eat all you can drink on them it's gonna be in C lot it's always bumping she gots her people out there like at 4 a.m. waiting in line so y'all make sure that you guys hit up my sister Krista and stay locked in with TBH Denver for this game man cuz it's gonna be a hell of a game and a hell of a time

Tony Bova (51:08.657)
you

Krista Maestas (51:15.298)
Yep. I've had numerous people tell us just from our previous tailgate parties here in Denver, that the way we run it really reminds them of the way we used to do it when we were in Oakland. So I'm trying to keep that going on year after year. know, with the heavy music and the dancing, we have a corner spot that people will start, you know, there's a dance floor that develops there. So, you know, it's a really big party, tons of food.

Tony Bova (51:28.909)
Okay. Okay.

Krista Maestas (51:42.35)
You know, all we ask is for that small donation. All you can eat, all you can drink. We have a bar. So yeah, pretty excited. And the guys are actually staying overnight. And this is a Thursday night football. There I have some guy by four vehicles staying Wednesday night by the stadium to ensure we get that spot.

Tony Bova (51:46.721)
Okay. And.

Raider Wil (52:02.863)
Yeah, and you know what? GeoMax says he used to watch the games in Longmont that Greg Beaker is from there. Did he? No?

Krista Maestas (52:03.586)
So we're dedicated.

Krista Maestas (52:10.082)
Yeah, Greg Rebers from Longmont. I live up in that area, man. So I know I'm like 20 minutes away from Longmont, about 40 minutes away from Fort Collins. And I'm a native here in Colorado, so I get it. Thanks for the shout out.

Raider Wil (52:23.939)
Yes, sir. Yo, and guys, hey, let them know where they can go to your watch parties this weekend to go watch the Jaguars game. So, Krista, I'll start with you.

Tony Bova (52:25.023)
Okay.

Krista Maestas (52:34.168)
So we've got, now that 5280 Bar is closed, we've been there for almost four years. We now are at the Huycas Mexican Restaurant. It used to be a nightclub, so it's very, very big inside. We have three dedicated rooms. So yeah, it's really big, great food, scratch kitchen, drink specials. We have a menu for game day specials. So yeah, family.

Tony Bova (52:54.347)
All right, well the address is skipping my mind at the moment but we gather at Flamingos in the Spokane Valley Spokane Valley Washington

Krista Maestas (53:00.802)
Very family oriented, but that's what we like it. We give a lot back to the community. So if you guys are in town, whenever watch parties for TBH Denver, we'll be at that location.

Raider Wil (53:12.293)
Tony B.

Tony Bova (53:21.663)
During Raider game days we offer Modelo specials, Corona specials as well as advertiser deals. And we have raffles, we have a good old time, we meet there every game day.

except like someone like the holiday games, obviously, because our watch parties are closed, our businesses are closed. But other than that, like all the game, know, the Thursday night games, the Monday night games, fight nights, UFC events, stuff like that. You can gather at Flamingos in the Spokane Valley, come party with us and have a good time, meet some people and win some prizes, eat some food and have a good time.

Raider Wil (54:00.945)
And guys, if you guys are on the Western slip of Colorado, specifically Grand Junction, guys, we are at the Eagles five nine five and we'll be watching the game down there. Come down, have great drinks, have great food and come enjoy some time. Now, guys, for the last segment of our show, for the last couple of minutes, guys, we're going to answer some questions from the chat.

So I'm going to give it if you guys can give me those five minutes here and I'm going to see here. Let me ask you guys this question here. Ronnie says, should Jacobi and Lockett play over Betch and Thornton, the two rookies? What's your guys's opinion? I'm going to start with Krista. Go ahead.

Tony Bova (54:38.263)
Okay. Okay.

Krista Maestas (54:39.778)
Yeah, I do believe that the veteran players should get a little bit more action out there. But in order to win against this team, I think you need to involve all four. But yet, Jacobi and Lackett should probably get more plays.

Raider Wil (54:51.651)
Okay, Tony B.

Tony Bova (54:54.468)
Betch may be Thornton. I think that's just raw talent ready to be tapped. like they need to open him up. That guy is a monster and they're not using him properly. So I'm not saying that Lockett needs to start over. But Myers for sure, Lockett may be coming in and being that veteran off the bench and that locker room presence. I don't know exactly how much, but I think he gets in over Betch, but I don't think he gets over Thornton. He shouldn't.

Raider Wil (55:21.923)
I really like the way that Krista answered that question. We need to figure out how to mix these guys in. We need to figure out how to come with that mixture where the veteran guys are teaching the younger guys to get to that elite level. We need that. We have no leadership in that locker room. And that right there builds leadership where your older guys come in and teach. We need that. And I think Krista hit the nail on the head when it came to that.

Tony Bova (55:50.401)
We're coming to the end of our part.

Raider Wil (55:51.565)
Hey, we have another question from Geobix. It says, would you rather have the Raiders win or would you have rather see the Raiders get a number one overall pick?

Tony Bova (56:03.085)
Hey, I don't watch, I don't watch them go loose. I don't watch them expecting them to throw in the towel. We went over this last year on this show numerous times. When they step on that field, those motherfuckers better be ready to play. I don't care. don't play. Yeah, we don't play for draft picks. Like, you're looking at trying to evaluate talent later in the year,

Krista Maestas (56:16.652)
Raiders win, baby! Raiders win! All day!

Tony Bova (56:30.055)
Those guys need to be put on the field and those guys better be ready to try to play. So like, yes, maybe you're not throwing in the towel, maybe you're looking to try to see where you can get out some of these younger guys for the future. But those guys need to be ready to play and try to win. We don't try to play for draft picks.

Raider Wil (56:46.092)
No doubt, no doubt. Hey, big luck. TBH San Antonio is in the house. Thanks for stopping on by brother. He says Raiders W and I agree with that. Ain't nobody going out there to lose. Geobanks come on baby. Nobody going out there to lose. Who wants to go watch the team and be like hey man my team is a bunch of losers. We going out there to go lose and just get a number one pick and getting a number one pick does not guarantee that you're going to get a good player. Just look at Joe Marcus Russell.

Tony Bova (56:57.661)
Yeah.

Tony Bova (57:16.579)
Dude, number one pick you can, yes, but there's so many holes to fill. A number one pick is not going to be the end all fix all. Like we gotta figure out something anyway. why not try to get some guys established at some time and take that mid round first pick and try to establish and get some depth. Like you're playing to win. Put them out there and let's see what we got.

and we'll worry about the traffic when the draft gets settled.

Raider Wil (57:46.892)
Yep, and then we got Predator. Do you think Pete is tanking? Is that what you? Yeah, so. Hey, I'm gonna let Tony go ahead. Do you think Pete's tanking?

Tony Bova (57:59.549)
I don't think he's tanking, but I think he's sometimes with older coaches, sometimes they get stuck in their ways and they're not willing to admit that maybe they're just a little bit off their past laurels. Like, I don't think he's tanking, but I just don't think he's adapting properly. And so I think he still thinks in his head that it's going to work. So by him thinking that he's not tanking.

He's just not accurate.

Krista Maestas (58:33.006)
Yeah, agreed. know, Pete, he's a winning coach. He wants to win. Well, you can tell it's going to take, like he said, even a minute, right? It's going to be, it's this, is it? It's a lot harder than he thought. But tanking, I would say no. He just needs, you know, his coaches, his coaching staff to support him. And they need to come by and, you know, make that right decision. All of them. And so they can able to go together. But no, do I think he's thinking? No.

I think he's still in it to win it for sure. He just needs to show it. It's time for it to come out.

Raider Wil (59:09.157)
And you know what? Big luck agrees with you guys. It says, I think Pete is stubborn in playing it safe and comfortable in what he knows. So I'm going to play it like this. Guys, as you guys know, when you got old reliable out there, right, you got your old 1995 Ford Pinto. Ready to go. She's all shined up. Looks good every single time you get an old reliable. She never breaks down.

Tony Bova (59:09.572)
Hell yeah.

Raider Wil (59:40.996)
But let's be real her time has passed Your car should be in a museum You need to go buy a new one piece you need to upgrade you know what it's like when you go buy a new computer You get all the chips all the stuff re-up upgraded uploaded whatever it is and you make it functional You can't make shit that worked

15 years ago make it work now. People already have found out how to take it apart. In the NFL, it's like, people are learning so quickly and things are happening so fast that you know what? At the end of the day, can't tell me that you're going to use a 15-year-old project on a brand new car. You brought in Chip Kelly. You brought in all these brand new dudes.

Tony Bova (01:00:15.068)
All right.

Tony Bova (01:00:32.22)
right.

Raider Wil (01:00:36.805)
And you want to have the same old shit? Then why bring in these guys? Makes no sense. But all right, guys, before we go, we're going to send out some salutes to the chat. Our boy Geo Mix before we're out of here says, hey, says facts. 5.8 wins per season since 2003. Get it right and let Gino finish the season. That numnuts guarantees a first round pick. Roddy says, no, he's still trying to figure out.

his OC and not taking control and letting his coordinators try to figure it out.

Tony Bova (01:01:12.348)
Are you talking about his two sons that can't coach for nothing?

Raider Wil (01:01:14.501)
We talked about that earlier. Prada Raider says, if he wanted to win, we would have considered the Chiefs rivals. And Big Luck says, how are we trying to win when we bring Alex Cappa? And last and not least, but our boy, the cover three is dead when you're in a zone. But if you cover three man, it works well. Ronnie.

Krista Maestas (01:01:17.902)
Those are the ones.

Raider Wil (01:01:44.175)
We can't disagree with you, man. But guys, we appreciate you guys locking in. We appreciate you guys coming on. And Sister Krista, thank you so much for coming on. I appreciate you so much. Thank you. I know that you're so busy and you're getting everything prepped up. And Tony B, thanks for coming back, bro.

Krista Maestas (01:01:52.717)
Yo!

Tony Bova (01:02:03.685)
Man it's been a while man, but I'm gonna be back at it like a second ago My phone is just like Raider nation it got overheated and shut the fuck down So that's what popped off. So I'll tell you what recharge the batteries were back at it. Let's make this shit happen, you

Raider Wil (01:02:11.875)
You

Raider Wil (01:02:19.063)
Yes, sir.

Krista Maestas (01:02:19.662)
All right, can't wait to see you guys in Denver. Can't wait to see you guys. Let's get it. Let's get that W.

Raider Wil (01:02:22.327)
Hey, Predator says the same thing. Yes, absolutely. And y'all, it's all about one nation. It's all about one team. It's all about the Raiders!

Tony Bova (01:02:22.776)
Yes, man, let's go, let's go.

Tony Bova (01:02:33.558)
Raider!

Raider Wil (01:02:40.654)
All right. Should be stopping.