Raiders Bye week

Summary

In this episode of the Silver and Black Radio Podcast, Raider Wil and Chidolinus discuss the Raiders' crushing defeat to the Chiefs, analyzing the team's performance, coaching decisions, and the historical context of the franchise's struggles. The conversation delves into the lack of leadership and accountability within the coaching staff, the offensive struggles the team faces, and the importance of community support among fans. The hosts express frustration but also a desire for hope and improvement as the season progresses. In this conversation, the hosts discuss the challenges faced by the Raiders, focusing on coaching strategies, player development, and the impact of ownership decisions. They explore the need for adaptation in coaching methods, the importance of developing players, and the cohesion required for a successful team. The conversation also touches on the future prospects of the team and the expectations of the fanbase, emphasizing the need for patience and strategic planning.

Takeaways

The Raiders suffered a significant defeat against the Chiefs, losing 31-0.
Statistical analysis shows the Raiders' offensive struggles, with only 30 plays run.
Historical context suggests a long-standing curse affecting the Raiders' performance.
Coaching decisions and team dynamics are critical to understanding the team's struggles.
Leadership and accountability are lacking within the coaching staff and players.
The offensive struggles are a result of poor play calling and execution.
Fans express frustration but also a desire for community and support.
The importance of adapting coaching strategies to fit the team's talent is emphasized.
Injuries and roster changes have impacted the team's performance this season.
The need for a more effective offensive strategy moving forward is crucial. There's a need for adaptation in coaching strategies.
Player development is crucial for team success.
Cohesion among players and coaches takes time.
Ownership decisions significantly impact team performance.
Fans expect immediate results but must be patient.
Drafting a future quarterback could change team dynamics.
Coaching accountability is essential for improvement.
The right type of players must be recruited and developed.
Management decisions should focus on long-term success.
Trade values for players may not reflect their true worth. 

Chapters

00:00 Raiders' Crushing Defeat Against the Chiefs
04:53 Analyzing Team Performance and Future Improvements
10:07 The Curse of the Raiders: Historical Context
15:10 Coaching Decisions and Team Dynamics
20:01 Injuries and Their Impact on Performance
25:09 Offensive Strategy and Play Calling Challenges
30:20 Quarterback and Offensive Line Dynamics
32:31 Community and Fan Engagement
38:11 Leadership and Team Dynamics
40:59 Coaching Philosophy and Player Utilization
48:12 Accountability in Coaching and Performance
52:15 Offensive Strategy and Adaptability
55:37 Adapting Coaching Strategies
01:00:04 Coaching Accountability and

Transcript

Raider Wil (00:02.894)
What up baby, it's your boy Raider Will with the Silver and Black Radio Podcast and in today's episode we're gonna talk the belt to ass that we took from the Chiefs 31-0. We're gonna talk about what we can do on the off or on this bi-week man these next two weeks to prepare for the Jaguars and get better. So y'all stay locked in man. Let's go.

Raider Wil (01:05.069)
What up baby like I said it's your boy Raider well with the silver and black radio podcast and today man. Yeah, just me so yo I hope you guys are ready. I hope you guys are engaged man, and let's get ready to go yo, man Hey first things first let's start getting to it man We just took a shell lacking from the Chiefs 31 to zero. Let's look at the box score, man

Boxcore is going to show us what they did. And guys, it wasn't pretty. Let's just be real. I'll be like, we got absolutely dominated in every phase of the game. There wasn't anything that was pretty about this game. isn't anything that we were looking at to say, hey, that's what we're looking for. That's what we want. So I'll be like, like I said, we're going to get into the box score here. I'm going to look at it quarter by quarter, man. And here we go. Share my screen.

you guys know I ain't no pro at this man I'm just sitting here trying to do my best so all right guys

Raider Wil (02:11.991)
31 zero.

Raider Wil (02:17.015)
Chiefs go up in the first quarter 7-0, second quarter 21-0. In the third quarter, they put up 10 points and then decided to start kneeling and put in Gardner-Menshu. That is how bad it was this week, guys. So as we get into the numbers, as you guys know, the Raiders only ran 30 plays on offense. That's right, 30.

Geno Smith went 10 for 16 for 67 yards, 4.2. He also had.

Raider Wil (02:52.481)
QBR of 7.7.

Man then we had to pick it in there for two for two. He also had a fumble He had two completions for eight yards the total for the team was 12 for 18 for 70 yards or point two Yards a throw. All right guys, and here's where I'm really starting to get pissed off Ashton Genti has six carries for 21 yards for 3.5 yards a carry six carries for a number six pick Dylan Lobby goes for two for three

Geno Smith has two for one yard. Kenny Pickett has one for zero, a total of 11 plays for 25 yards for 2.3. And then Patrick Mahomes looks like a king, 26 for 35, 286 yards, 8.2 yards, eight on average, three touchdowns. He has a QBR of 89.6 and a rating of 126.6.

Pacheco has 15 carries for 57 yards, 3.8 to carry, one touchdown. Brushard Smith, 14 for 39, 2.8. All right, guys, as you guys can see, they have better numbers. I'm going to scroll down. Let me see here. We are going to go see. Just give me a moment here.

Raider Wil (04:31.607)
The Raiders had time of possession of 17 minutes and 52 seconds for the game and the Chiefs had time of possession for 42 minutes and 8 seconds for the game. Guys what this is telling me right now that this is absolute domination. We got dominated.

Raider Wil (04:53.503)
At the end of the day, we've got to look at it for what it is.

Raider Wil (05:29.245)
What can we do to get better? And let's start looking into it, man. Let me just get into the phases of this game. Hey, first of all, got somebody stop.

Raider Wil (05:43.731)
there he is, man, the man, the legend of the Cheeto Linus, I'm already live bro, we live at 9. Hey, you know what, hey, thank you for stopping on by my brother.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (05:48.335)
Leo (ChidoLinus) (05:57.824)
Hey, of course, of course. Where's your crew at?

Raider Wil (06:01.395)
You know what? I had some mats getting ready for the playoffs. Val's in a place where shitty receptions at. And then two of the other guys were already, one of them is already in Baja. He's already telling me he's on vacation. Yeah, bro. He's like, bro, like I'm done. He's like, I can't do this anymore. like. Yeah. And it's bad, man. I mean, like, and I was just telling him, I was like, hey, I was just talking with look in the chat.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (06:16.492)
is already on vacation.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (06:23.263)
man.

Raider Wil (06:30.198)
that find some damn heart in the locker room, right? There's certain things, man, that you can't change, and it's hard for people. Because when I look at it, man, it's hard when you take a 31-0 whooping, right? And a lot of people don't see any hope. A lot of people go like, bro, like typical Raiders. I can't see la verdad, right? Like, bro, like, hey, this is something, bro, like our team has like a curse, like the curse of the bambino.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (06:36.022)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (06:51.169)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (07:02.402)
You know what it is, and I've been saying it for years and people say I'm trippin', it's the curse of John Gruden. Ever since Al Davis traded away John Gruden to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, you look at what's happened to us. Even the year 2016 when everything looked bright, and then DC goes down with that broken ankle.

Raider Wil (07:09.087)
It can be.

Raider Wil (07:24.234)
Hmm, I can see that. For me, it's like this, We haven't been good for so long. You know, for so long that it's just like, and I see people now and I ask people a lot and they go like, bro, we're like immune to it. Like some people are immune to this. No, no, I mean like.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (07:25.218)
It's a curse, bro. It's curse to John Greer.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (07:46.498)
I think it still affects you you just don't go down like that crazy road as much as other fans, but it affects you Yeah

Raider Wil (07:58.679)
to a certain extent but come on bro like at the time you go like hey man this is something that we've done every year every year bro I'm telling you the the people that deserve the best money is the PR team for the Raiders the PR team for the Raiders bro they need raises all of them because every year bro I'm sitting there I'm like this is the year we did the right thing like

Leo (ChidoLinus) (08:14.817)
Yeah.

Raider Wil (08:26.646)
I'm gonna tell you bro, like my biggest disappointment was when we looked at it and we said, hey, we could have hired AP. And I said, man, this guy doesn't got any experience. Why are we hiring Lou Getzi? Why are we not putting the right people around him? And putting him in the position to win.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (08:40.866)
Mm-hmm.

Right.

Raider Wil (08:47.796)
So when I go and I look at that and I say, man.

Raider Wil (08:55.542)
Like this team is always, there's always something wrong, right? Like right now we got the experienced head coach. We got Pete Carroll, the vato that's won a Super Bowl here. And everybody was like, oh, he has so many credentials. He's won in college. He's won here. I'll be like, I had people telling me 10 wins this season. 10 wins.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (09:15.99)
Yeah, yeah, well he said it to himself, remember?

Raider Wil (09:20.36)
So I go like, how do we go from that every year to going like, yo.

What's going on? Like, bro, like, like, why? And the disappointing part, bro, it's always by the bye week.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (09:30.476)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (09:36.386)
Well, that's like our standard. Let me lower my TV so can hear you better. Give me one second.

Raider Wil (09:42.816)
Yeah.

I brought to this game where the freaking Chargers are freaking absolutely crushing the Vikings right now, too.

Raider Wil (10:06.679)
We have too much love and pride not to be optimistic. Hey, you ain't lying.

I'd be like, hey, and that's the thing. I think as Raider Nation, we have pride and we remember the old days. There's a lot of us that are old enough to remember when this team was good. When this team, where you could talk your shit, you know? Yeah, where you could talk your shit, where you could move your swagger, where when you were like you were wearing Raider stuff, wasn't like it wasn't people making fun of you. I'd be like, Cheeto, I'd be like, I don't know about you, bro.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (10:26.562)
I am. I'm old enough.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (10:35.766)
thing.

Yeah, I know. Not like this. Yeah. We weren't like the joke of the league.

Raider Wil (10:44.566)
I live in Colorado bro. So you know we're get the business end of the business out here or the short end of the stick and people look at us bro and they're like man you're a Raiders fan. I had people tell me I'm sorry. I'm so sorry for you. Yeah bro like I'm so sorry man. They're like I wish you could win. I'm like huh?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (11:04.288)
You had people tell you, I'm sorry?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (11:09.664)
Damn.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (11:14.434)
You can hear me, right?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (11:22.059)
And I wish we could send this video to the VA as proof that my hearing is no longer there.

Raider Wil (11:29.302)
Hey, I'm telling you, I can vouch for that, I can vouch for that. Tell him.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (11:32.226)
I had a hard time hearing you before I put these on I was like I had a concentrate I was like almost reading your lips

Raider Wil (11:41.118)
Hey But and she does so tell me man I mean like you're a guy that's been around the block a guy that's been here you've seen the team win I'd be like What is it like bro? What is it that you see like I'm tired of time because let's be real this whole week We've talked about how much we suck I'd be like, this show right now like literally everything I have is we talked about Okay, we only had three first downs on offense 90

Leo (ChidoLinus) (12:00.993)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (12:09.704)
Oof. Yeah.

Raider Wil (12:11.095)
We have all these holes, have all these issues. I'm tired of talking about that, bro. I'm tired of talking about how bad we are, right? And it's just like, it's a pain in the ass. What's up, Geomex in the building, I'm yo.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (12:16.599)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (12:20.415)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (12:25.58)
What up, Gio?

Raider Wil (12:31.466)
What are the things that we need to do, in your opinion, to change these things? And Pete Carroll surprised me, bro, because when he came out and he's like, I didn't expect this.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (12:41.676)
You felt.

Raider Wil (12:44.862)
Like I was like, bro, if I go and I drink a shot of tequila and I start drinking tequila at the bar, I expect to be bellow when I leave from the bar. Right? Right? So so when you go to the field, OK, and you see everything at practice and you see everything on a consistent basis. Tell me, why are we? How can you just be like, yo?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (12:53.538)
All right.

Yes. Thank you. Yes.

Raider Wil (13:13.814)
I didn't expect this. what have you seen all season that you're telling me that you saw something better than this 35 to zero ass whooping we were gonna take?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (13:18.24)
Yeah

Leo (ChidoLinus) (13:26.466)
You know, I'll say this. It's two things. I think one, the fact that we do this so we look more in depth, we do it to ourselves.

If you think about how many other Raider fans have moved on from the game already, even though they're crying and they're whining that they want change, but they're not going over and over the stats with other people on the show, right? They're not reminding themselves we only had 30 plays and they had 31st downs. So it makes it a little harder, but then it also helps in that your Raider goggles get a little foggy because you start to see the light. When Pete Carroll came, I was like, OK, they got an experienced coach. Cool. Whatever.

Let me see what they do with his roster. Because to me it was always about the roster. And I'm with you, I'm like everybody else. I fell for the banana and the tailpipe to an extent. Because he said compete, we're gonna compete. I was like, okay, cool.

At least he's not, at least he's trying to keep that culture that AP created again that I think Josh McDaniels took away. At least we're doing that, right? But I think to me, the thing that they didn't do, or maybe they overestimated was the talent they have on this team. Our D line is completely different once you remove Christian Wilkens.

Christian Wolk has never played one down this season. We never got to see Max Crosby, Malcolm Coons and Christian Wolk together. Remember that. That's what it was supposed to be. That was what we got excited about. We never got to see that again. Bad luck. People can call it bad free agency. I don't think it was a bad signing when we got them. Sadly, things went down the way they do because we're the Raiders.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (15:10.562)
But I think in order and to Mark Davis's credit, it hurts and it sucks to hear it as a fan, but we do need to be patient because we see teams like Washington come in one year and then the next year in the NFC championship, right? You see that like, we can do it, they did it. Well, we can do it, they did it. But when you really think about it in actuality, it takes patience to build the team with new players in the new regime.

Even from when Josh McDaniels inherited that team that was a playoff team, you know, they lost a lot of games at the end. were 21-0 at times. Remember, we would lose the lead. You think about the Arizona game, the Chiefs game. But then Mesa started slowly removing pieces to build their own. You know, AP took over. He did his thing.

He didn't get the quarterback he wanted, the running back, whatever. But he tried and then now we're doing it again. But we're doing it with the same players that are starting to look. How many different coaches is Max at? Yeah, how many? And he's not even 30 yet.

Raider Wil (16:11.712)
There was like six?

Raider Wil (16:17.942)
man.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (16:18.786)
And it hurts us the fan because we don't want to wait we've been losing like you said us older fans have been losing for years So we don't want to hear be patient But to extent we kind of have to do and look at the bigger picture like it's gonna take time That's why I'm not ready to as much as I don't like him right now. I'm cool if they don't fire be careful I'm cool. They don't fire to Kelly Brandon Carroll he can go

Raider Wil (16:25.759)
Yeah.

Raider Wil (16:41.43)
So, and I'm gonna tell you, bro, like there's a, you know, the Godfather, AFL Godfather on X, he's like some sort of Raiders insider. There's a guy on Twitter.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (16:52.982)
Holy godfather, I know it's Al Davis. So this is a better show. That's the thing.

Raider Wil (16:55.858)
No, no, no, no, but I'd be like, there's a guy on X that always puts out stuff that he's an insider for the writers. People always like, and he's always spot on with this stuff, right? He's actually probably like, and he's always taking pictures inside the facility, all sorts of stuff.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (17:12.245)
Okay.

Raider Wil (17:13.204)
So he put it out there, he's like, man, the only two people that the Raiders should really be reevaluating right now is the assistants and the assistants names were quarterback's coach, assistant's coach Nate Carroll, and offensive line coach, Brandon Carroll.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (17:28.428)
Brandon Karo. did see that tweet. Somebody post reposted I did see it.

Raider Wil (17:32.008)
Yeah. So when you see that tweet and you see stuff like that, I mean, like it lets you know that you know what, man, there's a lot of things that people can see. And I don't understand why. And I get it, bro. like I have a son, like I have a son and he's coaching right now. And I'm happy that he's coaching, that he's learning that, you know, he's 21 years old and he went out there and he's like, Dad, I'm to start coaching middle school football with.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (17:43.839)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (17:50.625)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (17:59.254)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Raider Wil (18:00.276)
with my buddy Matt, that's why Matt's not here. Matt's their coach, they're getting ready for their playoff game tomorrow. So yeah, you know. yeah, man. So they're doing their thing. And I mean, like, but if I'm a coach, right, and I'm looking at it and I want to do what's best for my son and I want to do what's best for the team. Bro, I have to like, I have to put you through the wringer, right? I have to put you through the things. I have to do the right thing.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (18:07.5)
Okay, all right, shout out to that. High school?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (18:16.448)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (18:26.433)
And you have to choose.

Yeah.

Raider Wil (18:30.934)
And at the end of the day, bro, I don't know about you, bro, but sometimes like my dad whooped my ass for first. I looked I breathe. I breathe wrong. He'd whoop me right. Like, bro, it was just a sign of respect. Like back in the day, bro, like I didn't even tell my dad. No, like if you told them, no, it was like. Like he didn't understand that word, like what you say, right? So you have to do the same thing if I'm Pete, bro, I'm sitting there going like, bro, you're not cutting cheese.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (18:43.201)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (18:52.982)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Raider Wil (19:01.226)
You're my own son. But I have to do what's right here, bro. I have to do what's right. I have to show you what it is to be a grown man. And I get it. He's probably like his wife's probably going to be at home all mad. I'd be like, how'd you fire your son? I'd be like, bro, I could just imagine the explanation you got to come home with.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (19:13.442)
You

Leo (ChidoLinus) (19:20.61)
What up, Yeah. No. And it's tough, and I get it, because he even says you got to be patient. You got to give it time. But if you don't see, like forget that he's your son, any other coach, he'd be gone. He would. Yeah. He would.

Raider Wil (19:34.291)
He'd be gone.

Raider Wil (19:39.328)
So tell me like this, if he'd be gone already, then why would you sit here and do the same, like do this song and dance, perra? Like we're sitting here going like, man, I'm a strict coach. I'm going to hold these guys to the standard. I'm going to hold JPJ to this certain standard. I'm going to hold every other player to a certain standard. But when it comes to my own son and my own staff, I'm not going to hold them to the same or higher.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (19:49.383)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (20:01.643)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (20:07.234)
No, you need to. You have to. You have to hold everyone to the same standard. You're not even doing him any justice if you're coddling and babying him. I think putting him as the O-line coach was a big step. You should have made him an assistant. Because it's a big step from the University of Washington to the NFL. Put him behind Joe Philbin. Put him behind him. Let him learn behind him. That would have been the smart thing.

Raider Wil (20:25.279)
Please?

Raider Wil (20:34.547)
Why not? So let me ask you this. Why hasn't Joe Philbin been put in that spot? Why hasn't Joe Philbin been like, yo, man, we suck on O-line. This is where I'm good at. This is where my specialty is. Like, OK, Cheeto, like, I know, bro, like, you're really good at certain things. Like, hands down, like, you're probably a better, way better promoter than me. You're way more handsome than me. You know?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (20:43.186)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (20:56.593)
Hahaha

Yeah

Raider Wil (21:01.621)
The only thing I got on you is that I'm like 6'1", 6'2". That's it. That's the only thing, right? So I'm not going to go up to you and be like, hey Cheeto, can you reach something for me in the top shelf, bro? Go up there and grab that shit. I'm going be like, hey Cheeto, bro, hey, can you help me out with promoting this? You know what I'm saying?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (21:18.946)
Right, right.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (21:24.532)
Yeah, that ain't gonna be me.

Raider Wil (21:30.441)
But I like that. That's what it makes no sense to me, man. And big luck says it right here, man. He said, hey, send them back to high school. Send them back. Send them back to, you know, and you don't have to put them as a, like you said, put them as an assistant. I'd be like, put him somewhere where he's going to be successful. Isn't that your job as a coach to put your players and everybody where they're going to be successful?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (21:40.523)
He was in college, you know, he was coaching in college. Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (21:55.854)
You know, and I think the frustrating part is everyone else sees the struggles. And then even though that I saw the interview when they asked him and he thinks that they're doing a good job blocking. And I think that's where the frustrating part comes in. You know, you hear that and you're like, where do you guys see this? Where? Like where? Maybe one or two plays out of 20? Like, where is your standard? Like, yeah, that's the frustrating part.

Raider Wil (22:22.357)
Let me tell you like this, if we're doing such a great job blocking, why do we only have 30 plays on offense for the whole game and zero points?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (22:31.17)
Exactly.

Raider Wil (22:35.223)
If we're doing such a...

Leo (ChidoLinus) (22:35.948)
quarterback is shell shocked because we can't block.

Raider Wil (22:39.355)
I agree. And I'm not gonna say, people are like, Gino's, you know, he sucks and this guy should be freaking retired. Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (22:47.17)
He's making bad decisions. Yes, but don't think that other things don't impact it, you know, and it's funny you brought that up because

Other players like to blame this other things fans to write the other day Jacobi Myers was interviewed and he went up there and they asked him about Gino's ten interceptions, right? And this is why I like Jacobi Myers. He goes, yeah Yeah, Gino struggling with the tenor exceptions. He's a but it's not just him You know is the receivers could help that, you know, the old line could do a better job You know, there's there's other phases to this game that can get better that can help Gina

And I think that's where it comes in. It's easy to blame the quarterback that threw tenor receptions. I get it. We get for every week we go on there we yell, you know this, you know that, right? But then there are other aspects to this game. You got to give the quarterback time. You got to have wide receivers that can get open. Look at what's happened since Brock Bowers has been hurt. It's frustrating. It's bad.

Raider Wil (23:41.544)
man, you just hit the nail on the head.

Raider Wil (23:50.998)
You know what? I was listening to Pete Carroll, right? Pete Carroll, bro. Ese Viejito was like this. I can't wait to get Brock Bowers back. He's going to make such a great difference. We have all our difference makers injured. That's why we couldn't get it together against the Chiefs. We'll come back. Are you kidding me, bro?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (24:20.514)
Hmm.

Raider Wil (24:20.871)
Like, are you gonna say that the difference was that we didn't have, know, yeah, I get it. We had injured guys. He said Max Crosby was injured from before the game. He said all these guys were injured and they all had things going on. But let's be real. We haven't seen anything all year long to tell us something was gonna happen different.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (24:35.316)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (24:42.718)
No, no, no. And even then, like, you can't blame it on injuries. Every team goes through injuries. Look at the hated 49ers. Everyone thought they were done. Done! Because of all the injuries they've endured. Coaching matters when it comes to injuries. How you prepare your team. How you game plan. Look at when they play the Falcons, how much they ran the ball. You know? Granted.

Raider Wil (25:09.013)
You're 100 % bro. And this is where it's frustrating. Why is it that every single time we get a coach, we go like, and I keep going to Chip Kelly, right? Offensive creativity. This guy's supposed to be a guru. I ain't seen no creativity, bro. I don't see nobody open. I don't see, I'd be like, I see Ashton Gentry carrying like two or three dudes to get four or five yards.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (25:20.203)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (25:25.526)
Right.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (25:36.898)
Yeah, mean, on that one, think it makes sense and it's easy to say him, right? Also, like, the play calling, the play calling. But when you go back and you can review the tape, there are moments when the quarterback, when the receiver is open and the quarterback didn't see it. Or a run lane, say, Gent, he picked the wrong one. He's a rookie, understandable. He's learning. You've got to gel with your offensive line at that point, when you know which way you're going to go. They know which way you prefer to cut or move, right?

Raider Wil (25:37.247)
So.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (26:06.486)
So that takes time. Do I think Chip Kelly is a great offensive coordinator? Yeah, I do. But do I think he could do better? Absolutely. He has so many variations of an offense. But sometimes I think he gets so egotistical that he's like, no, we're going to do it this way because I know it's going to work and I'm going to make it work and show them. Like at this point, you don't have the horses to run the way or the offense you want to run, bro. You don't. We don't.

You're using them to probably what they're least best at. Instead of like, at this point, would extra O lineman, double it up. We're going, we're going to go heavy. We only got one guy right now and that's Gentie. So we're going to try to utilize that as much as we can. But you're going to get smart here. And in the first 15 scripted plays, you only had two designed for Gentie?

Raider Wil (27:03.009)
One, one, one in the first 15 plays. One play. And this is, so this is where I'm telling you, man. So like I said, this guy offensive creative, and I mean like in Ohio State, from what I remember, the quarterback, what was his name? something, Will Howard? That guy sucked at throwing the ball. He was terrible.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (27:03.17)
Hahaha!

That is insane, man.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (27:23.106)
Will Howard. Oh, absolute garbage. But even with him, Will Howard had two amazing wide receivers. One's in the NFL dominating right now in Bucke, right? And then the other one's going to come out maybe two years from now. But he knew what he had with Will Howard. He didn't make Will Howard drop back and throw the ball 30, 40 times.

Raider Wil (27:31.426)
So we ran the football!

Leo (ChidoLinus) (27:51.798)
He had two amazing running backs that he utilized. But there was one game, one game, and this is I go to his ego. They played Michigan. Michigan had two of the best defensive tackles in all of college football. So the plan would have been don't run at those dudes. What did Chip Kelly do? He ran right at them and fucking Ohio State lost. Yeah.

Raider Wil (28:15.797)
Yeah. And that's what I'm like, dude. But it's like, dude, I don't understand right now because I'm looking at it and nothing's being effective. Nothing's working. I'd be like, you look at him in freaking in the box and his face is covered. I'd be like, bro, he looks like he's freaking crying, like trying to figure out like. And I get that.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (28:34.754)
I think it's frustration like these guys can't because you're a coach When you go back and you see it when you see the old lineman bumping into each other And all that stuff like that's so frustrating like like we're killing ourselves guys

Raider Wil (28:55.871)
So, and I get what you're saying. okay, I'm gonna tell you like my view from the box, right? If I was viewing that from the box as a coach, you're damn straight on frustrated. But it's like this, what am I doing during the week that's wrong that my guys are not getting it together? That's what I'm trying to figure out.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (29:01.729)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (29:08.767)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (29:12.61)
You

Leo (ChidoLinus) (29:18.271)
Yeah.

Raider Wil (29:18.665)
Because at the end of the day, there's a miscommunication somewhere or somebody's not getting the game plan exactly like I want it. And I, as a coordinator, have to have the ability. And this is why I don't like the fact that Carol's kids are on Chip Kelly's side of the ball. Because when you are a coordinator, I want to be in charge. Cheeto, I'll be like, let's put it like this.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (29:25.814)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (29:39.061)
Hmm

Raider Wil (29:48.918)
When somebody's running a show, when you're running the show, you're running the show, right? Or when Jeff's running the show, Jeff's running the show. Everybody likes to win doing their thing their own way, right? So when I'm a coordinator and you're working for me, but I can't fire you because your dad is my boss, that inhibits me from doing my job.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (29:53.344)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (30:02.006)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (30:13.083)
Yeah. All right.

Raider Wil (30:18.375)
I need to do what's best.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (30:20.162)
Yeah, that's true.

Raider Wil (30:22.331)
So that's why I don't like that. Do you think that that is part of the problem there? That like there's a there's a some sort of friction there because it seems like it's those two key positions, the quarterback position and the offensive line.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (30:39.296)
Yeah, and you see it when the the blame starts going on each other, you know what I mean? Like when you see that, it's the they're not helping the play designer or this and that and like, that's where you can see the friction. You know, the blame game starts to happen. Yeah.

Raider Wil (30:54.803)
Hmm, I can see that. Alright, man, well, shoot.

All right, let's get on to it, man. Hey, hey, we talked about it. Tito, let me get your thoughts on the offensive struggles for the Raiders. What are we gonna do? What do you see in this bi-week? What do you see in these next two weeks that are gonna give the Raider Nation hope that we see some sort of semblance? I'm not telling you a high-powered, I'm not, bro, I just wanna see like, 10, 14 points a game, maybe, I'd be like some sort of consistency.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (31:17.922)
You

uh-uhm

Raider Wil (31:28.487)
What is it going to take for the Raiders to show some sort of consistency?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (31:32.058)
shoot, wait, am I supposed to be seeing myself or no? I only see you now. Is that normal? I never used this before.

Raider Wil (31:38.579)
Yeah, so yeah, can, can, hold on. Here, you like that better?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (31:41.51)
so yeah, so what you can look forward to, you know what you can look forward to? You can look forward to this Saturday. This Saturday, will, I wasn't going to go MC Raider called me today. I had seen it, but there's this picnic barbecue in San Diego with the San Diego nomads.

Raider Wil (31:51.797)
you

Leo (ChidoLinus) (32:05.218)
It used to be a really big thing. It's your 11th annual. Kind like what you guys do up in North, right? So a lot of the ones down here go down and they get together. So that's what you can do. Kick it with your Raider brothers. Kick it with your Raider fam. Because if you're expecting us to come back from this bye week and light it up in Las Vegas against Jacksonville, I'm gonna let you know right now, don't hold your breath. Don't.

Raider Wil (32:09.974)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (32:31.68)
I mean, if you die hard, you're gonna watch the team, you're gonna love the team, I'm gonna be the same way. I think I was telling myself today, I'm ready to move on from Kansas City, and I'm glad I'm gonna go to this barbecue with MC Rader, and we're just gonna chill, hang out, and then come next week, some of the optimism will come out, some of the, how can we win game plans start to come out, But.

Raider Wil (32:51.817)
Big Easy.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (32:59.88)
Exactly, exactly big like Picnic Sunday in San Antonio and that's what I'm saying as a nation We need to stay together if we want to complain we complain together. We want a bitch we can bitch together. No If you want to stay numb to it, right? Yeah

Raider Wil (33:11.349)
Go to your support group. Go to your support group. Don't forget your weekly support group meeting. Make sure that you get with your people. The Modellos will be flowing. And I'll be like, maybe I'll get some Vicente Fernandez in there, and everybody will just, you know.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (33:21.558)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (33:29.277)
I mean you you've met Mike from Raiders against the world. You've met him So he had called me earlier in the week. Come on, Cheeto. Let's go We're gonna try, know, bring this back like we're down and all this like obviously he had this concerns to be brought him up Like I can't believe we're doing this. I can't believe we're doing that but but at the same time is like, know I'm looking forward to kicking it with Mike. I'm looking forward to seeing some of the people I saw in Rosarito in San Diego on Saturday So I mean then I think that's the thing you can look forward to right as far as watching the team

Raider Wil (33:33.214)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (33:58.37)
You can look forward to the ticket prices going down.

Raider Wil (34:01.443)
I don't even think that's gonna happen.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (34:03.994)
for Jacksonville, yeah. The Cowboy Game, no. But I've already seen the tickets and prices go down for Jacksonville. Yeah. You've already seen the ticket prices go down for Jacksonville. Yeah.

Raider Wil (34:10.182)
Really? Hey man. Raider Nation, you're out there, I'll board J Raider's gonna be out there. Make sure that if you can get a ticket, hit them up. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. So, and I'm gonna tell you like this. This is what I like. I'm not gonna tell you that it's gonna get better.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (34:19.521)
that's right. That's his birthday game, right? It's the Jacksonville. Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (34:33.206)
Mm-hmm.

Raider Wil (34:33.865)
But what I will tell you is that there are things that Raider Nation can look forward to. What I expect and what I hope to see is a heavy dose of astringency in him developing in the second half of the season. I'd be like his vision has got better. He's improved. He's shown that, you know what? This guy can do something. Now, do I see Chip Kelly using him?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (34:55.212)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (35:02.358)
What's that? What's the beep? wait.

Raider Wil (35:09.429)
Basically saying...

Leo (ChidoLinus) (35:10.545)
It's not like Morse code. was like, are you asking for help? I was like, remember your Morse code.

Raider Wil (35:15.891)
but honestly do I expect Chip Kelly to use them okay no right

Leo (ChidoLinus) (35:26.178)
There you go. Okay, okay. Yeah. But I think that's the frustration. Like, why aren't we using him? Yeah.

Raider Wil (35:32.885)
Well, and so let me tell you like this. There are a lot of coaches man that are very arrogant. Geo makes your and he's we got some guys on our staff that are like that.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (35:41.346)
yeah he's one of them he's 100 % one

Leo (ChidoLinus) (35:49.42)
Yeah. From the head coach down.

Raider Wil (35:52.043)
And he wants to do things his own way. And he wants to be like, hey, well, I'm the coach. And that's the biggest thing, right? I think the best coaches, man, they realize that even like Bruce Arians, I love his style, Bruce Arians is a coach that I admire because he gets to know his players. You're a player's coach.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (35:57.942)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (36:12.108)
Okay.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (36:18.815)
Right, right.

Raider Wil (36:19.958)
You go and you talk to your players, you use them to the best of their abilities. You start to get to know them. You start getting them to turn up. I'd be like, man, and it's an amazing thing to see, I'm going to tell you. My son is going through it right now. He's like, Dad, mean, he's like, I see my kids developing. I see them getting better. He's like, oh my gosh. He's like, you should have seen this play. He read it so fast, he just hit the hole and gets downhill.

That's when I'm like, okay, that's coaching. And you should be excited that your players are developing. I don't see this across the board with the Raiders. I'm gonna tell you, man.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (36:51.264)
That's coaching, yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (36:58.53)
No Maybe every now and then like the game against Chicago where gente had his breakout game like maybe that one. Yeah, or Devon white again Titans maybe right the defense you could say that a little bit but for the most part now

Raider Wil (37:12.331)
Yeah.

Raider Wil (37:16.138)
Like today they were talking about Ty Blue Kelly. They talked to the corners coach. And they were talking about how he's developing, how he's taking his licking, so you know that he thinks he's holding his own, that he thinks he's working through it. And I get where he's coming from.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (37:19.325)
my lord.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (37:23.65)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (37:29.473)
Yep.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (37:37.27)
Yes.

Raider Wil (37:39.376)
because at the end of the day that's probably the best one of the best players he's got and that's where like people don't realize right like i'm like yo who else do we got and they're like throw in darian porter okay how are you going to tell me that darian porter is going to do better

Leo (ChidoLinus) (37:44.482)
Yeah.

The rookie put him very important

Leo (ChidoLinus) (37:57.558)
that you don't. If anything, he's going to have his growing pains too. Especially because he's only played the position like what, two years?

Raider Wil (38:01.415)
Exactly.

Raider Wil (38:05.919)
Yeah, so, Cheeto, like, you were in the Navy, right? What did you do in the Navy?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (38:11.858)
I was a mechanic engineer, worked on the catapults.

Raider Wil (38:15.486)
Okay, so if a catapult broke down, did you call, and something serious happened, did you call the rookie to come and pick up the big problems and be like, hey bro, hey rookie. It was always the more experienced guys that went in there that were like, hey man, this is a serious issue.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (38:21.602)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (38:27.227)
no, no, no, yeah, absolutely not, yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (38:35.082)
And to that point, even the most experienced, when I became the most experienced guy, I brought the rookie with me to teach him how to do it.

Raider Wil (38:43.56)
Exactly. Right? Tell me where you see that with the Raiders.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (38:45.719)
Yeah.

And I think I don't I think the only person I see that with is probably with Max and Jacoby

When it comes to the coaching staff, maybe with PG, because he's very familiar with these guys, maybe with him, but I don't see it with Chip. I don't see it with Pete. I know he plays around with them. He's out there motivating them, trying to get the best out of them. He has his own style. But to me, at this point, I just I don't I don't see that being very functional. Like I always told people like this should be a balance. Even when military, perfect example, when I became like supervisor or whatever.

My chief brought me to the silo. Okay, these were your friends. I get it. But you're their supervisor now.

You can't be their friends anymore. You guys can hang out after but you need to understand that now you're expecting stuff from me, right? So you're gonna have to stop being so nice and being a little assertive when you have to. And I remember the first time I did it, like they all looked at me like, bro, like, are you okay? What's going on? What happened back home? Like we never heard you. And I was like, no, cause y'all ain't getting it. So now I gotta raise my voice so you mo' folks can get it. And I think sometimes you need that from Pete with these guys, especially when

Leo (ChidoLinus) (39:59.3)
If Gino is your guy, you're the only one who's going to be able to talk to him that way and him get it. But you're over here telling him he's doing a good job. Yeah.

Raider Wil (40:05.496)
Exactly. Where's the leadership? And I'm going to tell you like this, If I'm the Raiders organization owner right now, if I'm Mark Davis, this is what I'm saying. I need leadership in IO3 for Raider Nation. Please come down the aisle. Because we have none. There's no accountability, Cheeto. There's none.

There's a bunch of excuses and excuses are like assholes. Everybody's got one. And everybody has to wipe their ass, everybody you know. At the end of the day, I look at it and I'm like, bro, what are we doing? Why can't we have that accountability if Max Crosby is coming out and saying, I'm accountable for it. I'm taking care of this. I'm doing this work. I'm doing this.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (40:39.314)
Yup.

Raider Wil (40:59.511)
JPJ came out said, hey, I need to be accountable for my things. He's out there, bro. And when he comes out and plays, when he comes out and plays and absolutely dominates, right? I'm not going to tell you about this whole chiefscape because Chris Jones, bro, took his lunch money, spanked him. mean, like, hey, he was calling Chris Jones daddy. But that's Chris Jones. And tell me, and tell me like this.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (41:14.786)
Man that'll do.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (41:23.075)
But that's Chris Jones. Yeah.

Raider Wil (41:28.319)
Tito, tell me like this. Why as an offensive coordinator and as a game planner, why are you not double teaming Chris Jones? of every single guy you got, Carl Ofkiss, yes, I get it, he's a danger on the outside. But the most immediate threat and danger is your defensive tackle. That's the shortest distance to the quarterback. And you're putting-

Leo (ChidoLinus) (41:44.672)
Yeah he is. mean their whole front four is pretty good.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (41:51.298)
Good shots.

Raider Wil (41:57.324)
JPJ one-on-one with Chris Jones? Where you don't even put an All Pro against them one-on-one because you're like, bro, people go like, you don't want to go Chris Jones one-on-one. No, bro, you don't want none of that business. But here we go. We line up that way, and that's the way we do it.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (42:02.594)
Right.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (42:11.713)
You

Leo (ChidoLinus) (42:18.306)
You know, the funny part is because there's two sides to that. Like, I get that part. But then I also can picture coaching going through walkthroughs. You got this, Jackson. You got it. You got it. Yeah, I got him, coach. I don't need help. You sure you got it? You're going be able to. I will be able to take him, coach. I'll be able to take him. Right. And then you get out there on that field and it's like, fuck. Yeah.

Raider Wil (42:41.175)
No, I get you. I've been there, where you're like, I got this coach and I got and it takes you, bro. The first play you're like, fuck. Like, what did I just do? But I'll be like.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (42:46.582)
Yeah!

Leo (ChidoLinus) (42:53.504)
Yeah, yeah. And I know it because I remember I played corner. There was this receiver who was like, he was one of the better ones in our legal, whatever. And they told they asked me, we were rehearsing the whole week. He's taller. So they asked me and I like, no, I got this. Fuck that. I'm cool. I'm cool. We're good. We're good. I don't need no help. Like, we're good. All right, cool, cool, cool. All right, cool. You got it. Men just got it. Men just got it. Man.

Raider Wil (43:10.487)
I got you.

Raider Wil (43:19.607)
I've been there bro, I've been there.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (43:23.934)
God bro, my lord, he ate me up that day.

Raider Wil (43:28.479)
So I'm sitting there, I'm like, yo. And I, because like, bro, I was like on the taller side, like I said, so I was lanky and I was physical, right? So I'm like, yeah, yeah. And I like, sitting there, bro, I'm gonna get mine, I'm gonna get mine today. Coach goes like, yo, that kid over there, all state. He's real. He ain't never seen nothing like me, coach. He never seen nothing like me.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (43:43.243)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (43:47.446)
Yeah, there you go. Mm-hmm. Exactly. And that's what I'm saying. Like,

Raider Wil (43:57.048)
But I'd be like, yo, but once you see the tape and you know they got the little boards, bro, you can make those adjustments and that's what coaches get paid big time money for. That's why they have all those things. So I admit.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (44:08.088)
yeah.

If you think about it, this is year two Jackson has gone against that team Last year. He was the center. So now Andy has tape on him already and he can learn JPJ certain tendencies and best believe they went over them with Chris Jones

Raider Wil (44:16.353)
Yeah

Raider Wil (44:29.845)
Yo, so GeoMix says Raiders have blind leading the blind at the O line with their coach.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (44:36.002)
That I agree with man, I don't know what this guy's doing whatsoever like

Raider Wil (44:43.965)
bro and the worst part is this video that came out where he is like rolling his eyes at the first looking like he just took a hit off the dab bed and was smoking the wacky tabaki bro and all that he's like his eyes are like rolling and he's like bro like my gosh bro please like if you're already under the rest you know you're already under fire you're already and you're gonna give an interview like that bro

Leo (ChidoLinus) (45:02.05)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (45:11.168)
bad all bad that was not a good look at all it did not bring any any faith that the dudes getting in or he's gonna get better at this point

Raider Wil (45:21.847)
He said that they were blocking well. He said that they thought they, he said, I think we're doing a good job blocking. On what planet? Oh, Me and you can block better, bro. Sign us for a meal of peace, Raiders, right now. Hey, left guard, left tackle, right here, baby. Hey, it's only gonna cost you a meal and we'll get the blocking, at least we'll try. I mean, like.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (45:45.601)
Hahaha

Raider Wil (45:48.087)
And that's the sad thing, man. mean, like, there's some guys that I'm like, bro, that guy didn't even block nobody. Like, the guy ran right through me.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (45:54.304)
Yeah, they don't know their assignments. They don't know the scheme. They get lost. That's what I mean when they look lost out there.

Raider Wil (45:59.384)
So that right there tells me what GeoMix is saying. That Brendan Carroll doesn't know what he's doing. Brendan Carroll has no idea what Chip Kelly wants from him.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (46:16.538)
And if you look at that play, I don't know if it was because of that play, but when he got benched, when JPJ got benched, he literally let Chris Jones come through free.

I don't know if that was his understanding somebody else was gonna get him I'm going over here my responsibilities over here, whatever it was right, but Chris Jones came free to to to Gino and I looked like they were running like a post corner post or something to Thornton Which could have been there, but he just didn't have enough time to get it and then they got upset and I think that goes back to okay Who was JPJ? Did he not know his job? Did he not understand? I'm supposed to blackers,

and he thought somebody else had him. But that all starts with the coaching with Brandon Carroll. He's the one who's got to make sure they're all understanding what the call is and who they're supposed to block on whatever is called out there. And I think that to me is that there's that problem.

Raider Wil (47:15.273)
I agree with you there. When we look at it, we're sitting here, we're talking about it. mean, like, bro, if I'm your, if you're my CEO, you have certain expectations of me as like a gun mate or a gunner or whatever for me to do certain things and operate in a certain manner.

Raider Wil (47:39.625)
If I'm expecting that and those things are not happening again and again and again, I can't, I keep going back to it. Why hasn't Ren and Carol been fired? You would have fired my ass. I would have fired my own ass. I'd be like, bro, like, let's be real right now. Like if that was your job and you were getting paid and you knew that bro, like your daddy wasn't there, he'd be stressed. He'd be fired.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (47:53.91)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (48:05.474)
Yeah.

Raider Wil (48:09.815)
So why?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (48:12.322)
It's funny you bring that because you brought up the military and I remember when I became supervisor how it happened.

It was the guy who was our supervisor, wasn't motivating the guys enough to get the job done. You could see it in our performance. was just lag, lackluster. I used to even tell, because you're like, team, I have my own team. I don't care what these other teams are doing. We're not going to be like them. We're going to keep this shit together. And we did. So when it came, and you're right, my senior chief came up one day.

got the senior at that time, pulled him aside, took him out, and told everybody else, y'all gonna listen to him now. Just like that. Just like that, yeah.

Raider Wil (48:52.223)
Yeah! So tell me like this, where's the accountability bro? I mean like if you're benching players and you're doing all these things to the players, okay? Because like let's put it like this, in military terms, okay? The players are like the non-NCOs. They're at the bottom of the food chain. Then you got like your NCOs and then you got your ownership, you know, your high command and all that crap. But bro, you know as an NCO bro?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (48:56.138)
Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (49:02.464)
Yeah.

Raider Wil (49:22.188)
That was the worst. That means you have responsibility. That means you gotta motivate others. That means you're not only in charge of yourself anymore.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (49:30.24)
Now they're not looking at you, looking at them for doing so bad. They're looking at you. Why aren't they doing their job?

Raider Wil (49:36.712)
So I'd be like, I'm looking at these coaches like, hey, you should be in the same spot. So again, I go like, Brett and Carol coming out and doing this interview saying that he thinks they're blocking well. They can that. No.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (49:58.55)
Mm-hmm.

Raider Wil (50:00.492)
You suck! And why are we not coming out and just saying it and be like, look man, we're not doing a good job, we're being ineffective, we're at the bottom of the barrel. Bro, we got 30 plays, the last, we obviously ain't doing our job.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (50:16.392)
Right, but it even knew you said it starts from the top. If he thinks they're doing a good job, it's because they're telling him you guys are doing a good job above him, his dad, the coordinator, whoever, right? It starts from there. So if I'm the head coach and in my mind, they're doing a good job. We're this close. We're this close. We're almost there. And we're out here wondering like, where?

Like, where you guys seen this? That's why it killed me so much when he said, I didn't see this coming. I was like, you must have been the only one who didn't see this ass-whopper coming.

Raider Wil (50:54.295)
And that's where I'm like, okay, and I get it, right? and I think like Pete's just trying to make it so people don't like jump ship and go overboard, right? And go like, this is the Titanic and we're all just gonna jump off. Hey, this is Raider Nation, baby. We're used to this shit. You don't gotta lie to us, bro. Pete, you ain't gotta lie. Tell us the truth. You know?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (51:04.769)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (51:12.8)
Yeah, we ain't going nowhere.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (51:22.106)
And to his credit, I know I that he's like, I don't want to hear that AP shit to his credit. When he fucked up, he said, I messed up. We weren't ready. I respected that.

Raider Wil (51:32.215)
And you know what, and that's something I think we have to look at. And I always said that I felt like AP was never set up for success once we had his assistant become Luke Kenzie.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (51:41.684)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (51:47.103)
Right.

Raider Wil (51:49.865)
right so but Cheeto this is where we come back Cheeto for a life. Hey we'll take it we would take it right now but and this is where I'm I'm looking at Brennan Carroll right and I'm like going like what playbook are you looking at bro like zone offense is not that complicated

Leo (ChidoLinus) (51:54.912)
I wish, I'd probably do better than that, fool.

Raider Wil (52:15.544)
And Chip Kelly's own offense is really not that complicated because it comes from the college system.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (52:21.378)
Mm-hmm.

Raider Wil (52:24.45)
There's nothing that's out of this freaking world with the Cheeto. I'm telling you, man, because I've seen it. I've seen all these playbooks that come out. mean, like, fortunately, as a coach, you have a lot of friends that, you know, they can be like, here's that Ohio State's playbook from two years ago. Do you want to use it? Cool.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (52:37.922)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (52:41.9)
But this is nothing like he ran in Ohio State, nothing, You never saw this many trip formation when he was at Ohio State, not even in Oregon. You could go way back.

Raider Wil (52:48.117)
It doesn't look like anything.

Raider Wil (52:54.402)
So I don't understand, so what is this then? So why would he go to a straight shotgun and he used it in Oregon. He did use the shotgun. But I'll be like, the way that we're, I'm like, I don't understand why can't we come from underneath center with his offer? Why can't we make adjustments? Why is he so unwilling to make those changes to make us more effective?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (53:03.106)
The shotgun yeah

Leo (ChidoLinus) (53:18.806)
It goes to the same problem I had with Josh McDaniels. Instead of changing or coordinating your offense to the talent you have, you're expecting the talent to match what you want to do and you don't have it.

And I think that's the problem we have right now. Chip wants to run things a certain way. That shit works when you got a wide receivers like Mbuka. You got two fucking running backs like they had last year, you know, in Junkins and Henderson, right? You got a great O-line that dominated one of the best defensive line in college in the championship game. That'll work when you do it that way. You didn't even need a superstar quarterback. You he didn't need one. He just needed someone to not make mistakes. But you don't have that here, Chip.

Raider Wil (53:46.029)
Yeah.

Raider Wil (54:01.965)
Well, and that's the thing. And I go like, he doesn't have that, right? He doesn't have all these things, so you have to adapt.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (54:02.688)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (54:11.82)
Yeah, and he's not doing that and he's not doing Yeah That's the frustrating part

Raider Wil (54:14.596)
And that's where exactly that's what's bothering me. Because if you have a lot of like ingenuity, right. And I'm going to tell you like this, bro, I'm not like like this freaking guru coach or anything like that. I'm not a guru coach. I'm like I basically take a lot of the stuff that I've learned and I reapply it. Right. Like I've learned from my coaches and I went like, hey, I played in a four to five system. So I like to like run the same type of system. I like to run hybrids off of it and stuff like that.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (54:27.127)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (54:42.922)
Mm-hmm.

Raider Wil (54:44.871)
But I'm no guru. This guy's supposed to be a guru and you're telling me he can't figure out that he doesn't know how to use his best players? You're getting paid six million dollars.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (54:50.686)
Office of Green.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (54:56.668)
your best player is who right now? Just Gentie. That's it. Yeah.

Raider Wil (55:00.248)
What a predator, what's going on, brother?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (55:04.418)
What up man? Oh, that's the fist in there. Like what is that? Just like a little square on there. I like what is that? I've never used Riverside before. I did one time. Somebody used to and I would hop on their show. Yeah.

Raider Wil (55:11.288)
He's stupid.

Yeah, hey, I'm glad you're about to jump on it. Like I tell you, it's totally different, man. When I'm on StreamYard 2, I'm like looking at it, I'm like, what does that button do, bro? Like, I don't even want to push that. But like, do you see this, man? I'm like, it even has like a little raise your hand button. And we need that. Hey, we need that for our show, though, bro, the way that we're going with James. We need a raise your hand button.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (55:25.41)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (55:35.138)
I saw that.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (55:43.114)
man, I love James. Shout out to James. Shout out to James. James is my homie. man, that was funny. Yeah, you should have, or man, that's funny.

Raider Wil (55:48.313)
I should have told them to go jump on tonight. But yeah, next time I will. Yeah, but like we were saying, man, there's a lot of things that you have to look at and say, Chip, why are we not adapting? Why are we not changing this? But I look at that and in my opinion, this has to be done by Pete Carroll. And I'm still confused because, you know, we've talked about it a whole bunch of times.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (56:12.834)
Right.

Raider Wil (56:18.23)
where Pete Carroll comes out and says, we're going to run the ball 25 times. We're going to freaking play good defense.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (56:29.314)
But when you're down 14-21-0, it's hard to run the ball 25 times. You know that. I guess my question would be this. we already see this offense as a very simple offense, not that complicated. And we see these guys aren't getting it. So as a coach, do you dumb it down even more?

Raider Wil (56:38.188)
it.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (56:50.892)
for these guys? Like is the talent we have on our team that much lower or deficient than everyone else that we literally have to dumb this down even more to be able to get the most out of the players we have? Or you keep challenging the players to meet you. We're like, no, I want you guys to be here to do it this way.

Raider Wil (57:11.608)
Okay, for me as a coach and that's where you just, okay, I'm a players coach and I'm a coach, I'm a developer. I'm a developer, yeah. So when you add with the way that you said that, I wanna develop my guys, dude, I wanna make them better. I wanna push them to the absolute limit every single day. Tito, mean like when I come and you invite me to your shows or whatever.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (57:15.304)
Mm-hmm. Okay. So you're Bruce Arrian. Okay.

Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (57:34.466)
Mm-hmm.

Raider Wil (57:38.966)
I do my research because I want to bring the best to you because I don't want to like come there and be like, yo, look like a penejo, right? And be like.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (57:47.264)
Yeah, you don't want to get caught with your pants down on my show like that. No. I'm on your show, right?

Raider Wil (57:50.399)
Yeah, or any show or come into anybody and be like, and be like, right? You want to be like, So what we do is say, hey, man, I want to prepare myself. I want to push myself to the max. Well, because I know that you're watching things because I know that other people are watching things and doing things. I'm like, man.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (57:57.0)
Right, right, right, right, yeah.

Raider Wil (58:14.988)
I need to study up. need to make sure I know what I'm talking about. I need to make sure that this thing's going on. So I want to get that dog out. I want to make sure that I'm bringing my egg in. So that's what I want from my guys. So every single time as a coach, I'm pushing. I mean, we push every day.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (58:16.226)
B

Leo (ChidoLinus) (58:22.146)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (58:35.328)
I get that and I get wanting dogs and I think I just have it reminds me of when Pete and Spitex said we want players that are gonna want to play here, right? We want a certain type of player now. I love dogs. I love a dog. want my I want a dog too. But remember, remember you still have to train that dog to do things the right way.

Raider Wil (58:53.496)
You

Yeah.

Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (59:00.416)
And I think that's where we are right now. I really think they're trying to find the kind of players they want. And now they just have to coach them up to how they want them to play on the field. know, some are going to have a tougher time than others. Even with Caillou Kelly, like as much as I hate how much he's getting beat and looking lost out there, one of my favorite corners was J'Corian Bennett recently. He struggled, struggled his rookie year, right? But he was a rookie. Came back his second year, a lot more solid.

You you figured they would learn. And I think that's the part I want to see is we're going to get dogs, we're going to get them, but can these guys train our dogs? That's the problem, you know?

Raider Wil (59:38.679)
Let me show you.

Raider Wil (59:43.86)
And that's where I'm looking at it, right? Do we have the right type of coaches? Do we have those guys? And I feel like Rob Leonard, bro, the way that he talks, because I'm like, he a dog. That dude is a dog. I'd be like.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (59:46.049)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (59:50.1)
Yeah

Rob Leonard is yeah He's one you that's one you keep If PG ever leaves he's the guy I would want to be your DC

Raider Wil (01:00:04.887)
I agree. And I love the way that he talks, right? Like, hey, they were talking about the defensive line and how, like, you know, they're improving and that, yeah, you know, you said they're getting better. We're getting, you know, we're improving. We're doing this. We're doing that. But we could still do that. And I mean, like, that's where I'm like, OK, this guy's a coach. no.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:00:08.524)
Mm-hmm. Same.

Yeah, I heard him.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:00:28.322)
And he didn't make any excuses because they brought up the injuries. He's like, I didn't think I was going to be at her with only six D linemen. You know, but I told the guys I told book time about Booker, I told book, hey, I'm going to need you to step up.

Raider Wil (01:00:36.511)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:00:42.85)
I'm gonna need you to do this now because we lost the other dudes and I and I knew it was Rob Leonard when he talked that way I was that way who's talking right now because I was listening to it on the car and I was all that's Rob Leonard. Okay, I can tell I'm gonna there's a huge difference than all they did they did their best. They're just trying they're trying they're doing that like that's completely different than what you heard from Robin

Raider Wil (01:01:03.448)
And that's where I was like, wow, man, why can't we have every coach be on the staff like that? Right? That's only a coach. That's the coach's dream, of course. But when I go like, yo, we need more of that across the board. I'll be like, no accountability. I'll be like, when you talk to the linebackers coach, bro, the linebackers got worked. I'll be like, they were out there like, hey.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:01:12.479)
Yeah

Hmm

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:01:22.146)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:01:29.826)
Oh my god, when Roberts let Kelsey go and I'm like, bro, who are you letting him go to? You just stop following him. Like, oh, this is the end of my zone. Like, who does that?

Raider Wil (01:01:46.136)
Exactly. And that's where I'm like, bro, like, what are you doing? Like, the most dangerous player on the field. And you're just like, I'm just going to pass him off. To who, bro? To who? I mean, like, he's the most dangerous guy on the field.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:02:00.898)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. And that all goes with coaching. And that goes with coaching, communication, cohesiveness. That takes time for a team to develop that.

Raider Wil (01:02:14.123)
Yeah, and I agree with that. And I think like we have to look at those things and say, hey, the cohesion, all those things need to come in time. But how much time? Like how much time? And then again, if we're saying, hey, there isn't any cohesion in week 12 and week 15, then we know it's the coaching, right?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:02:37.882)
It's the coaching and the dogs they picked weren't weren't weren't bulldogs or chihuahuas Time to return those dogs to the pound. Sorry

Raider Wil (01:02:47.225)
But I'll be like, so what you do is this, okay? So if you're saying that, if we're done by that, by week 12, are you saying to blow it up? We're done right now? So you're saying we're done right now? You see us at two wins for the season?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:02:58.555)
We're done right now. We're done now.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:03:07.97)
I see this at the most. The most forewinds is gonna be a stretch.

Raider Wil (01:03:15.831)
Okay, forward.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:03:16.428)
thought we were going to put up a chance against the Chargers, right? We're going to be in LA. We're going to have the home field advantage. I just saw the Chargers play. I told the group, we're getting our ass kicked in LA. Right? And then somebody said, man, that looks bad. Wait till we play Broncos and Vance Johnson defense. And then it hit me. Well, I'm going to watch my team get their ass kicked back to back because I'm going to the Charger Raider game. And then I'm going to go to Vegas to watch them play the Broncos.

Raider Wil (01:03:46.093)
Bro, you're not giving me much help. I'm going November the 6th.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:03:47.97)
Right? That's what I'm saying. But, and I get it, but I think it would be different or we would be singing a different tune if they showed that they were getting better. Even if we were two and five. If we were two and five and we lost to KC 24 to 31, I would have been cool with that.

I would have been cool with that the way we lost to the charges the first game it was it sucked because we blacked out the stadium We showed up too many turnovers, but I was cool with the way they lost because we showed some fight in it, right? We showed some fight It's the blowouts that are killing me the Washington game, right? The this one against the Chiefs The Colts the Colts game those three are the ones that are killing me if I see more games like that It's that's what I'm saying

Raider Wil (01:04:29.153)
Bro, it's three out of the five losses are blowouts, bro.

Raider Wil (01:04:38.649)
Bro, 3 out of the 5 games have been blowouts. I'm okay with losing too Cheeto. I'm okay with losing. It happens bro. Guess what? I've lost a lot as a coach. Bro, mean a lot. Like more than I'd like to say. But I've also won a lot right? So there's an equal amount. But bro, all we seem to be doing is losing and losing and then going and trying to change.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:04:41.12)
Yeah. Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:04:47.722)
Yeah

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:04:54.059)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:04:59.394)
blues and yeah leo no my dog my dog's name is leo

Raider Wil (01:05:07.661)
His name is what? You're...

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:05:08.788)
Leo yes Yes We We had another dog. His name was max and sadly he We had to be he had to put be put down because he had like dog blood cancer or whatever So my the family was heartbroken heartbroken and then my brother had a friend who had a german shepherd That's that's what max was That needed a new home. So it's okay cool. He sent us pictures. I get home Come to find out the dog name is leo

Raider Wil (01:05:22.073)
Okay.

Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:05:36.793)
You

So when your girl's yelling at the dog, sometimes do you think it's you? Do you go like, what, babe, what?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:05:44.778)
Nah When I get y'all better get caught by my horny

Raider Wil (01:05:50.937)
damn she gets all Mexican style on you huh? Full name comes out you're like even your neck stretches out hair on the back of your neck. Freaking everything starts getting on fire.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:05:52.63)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the... Yeah, yeah, everything like that. They're like,

Wait, Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie, where did Ronnie see the trading block? Who says JPJ is on there?

Raider Wil (01:06:10.991)
What?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:06:11.938)
He said Ronnie Granis

Yeah

Raider Wil (01:06:21.113)
I have no idea, I haven't seen that.

Raider Wil (01:06:25.761)
Ronnie, where'd you see that?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:06:27.147)
Yo.

Raider Wil (01:06:29.027)
Why don't we give Jacoby 17 mil? Hey, would I pay him right now? mean, bro, here's the thing. He keeps getting more expensive every single game. I don't care what his stats are because right now what he's going to do is tell us, hey, my stats suck because we suck. Be like, who do you got on this team that can perform better than me?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:06:32.866)
Yeah, I would have been fine with that.

Yeah, I would have been fucking with that.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:06:47.842)
Right.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:06:56.034)
Oh, who did they bring back? They brought back DJ Turner. That's the one they brought back, right? I think I was telling you, I think I was with you guys on Tuesday, right? I was like, we're so bad at wide receiver. We brought back DJ Turner.

Raider Wil (01:06:56.076)
No one!

Raider Wil (01:07:04.601)
Weeee

Raider Wil (01:07:12.913)
When you go DJ Turner, this is what I Jokes on me.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:07:16.192)
Hahaha!

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:07:20.226)
And I get it. He's a Raider. We like him. He was a great special team guy. It's nothing on him. But it's just like this is what I'm saying when we talk about the talent on the field.

Raider Wil (01:07:24.012)
No.

Raider Wil (01:07:31.737)
And for me it's this man, if we're gonna assign somebody and you're gonna give me hope, bring somebody that's like dude has some reputation has something.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:07:42.645)
There's this offensive lineman, I can't remember his name, on the Giants. He's a former first round pick, I think from like two years ago.

And he's on the trading block with the Giants. The Giants don't need him. They're ready to move on from him. Like, I wouldn't mind if the Raiders did something like that. To go get someone like him, a guard, who can play tackle. Right? And see what he can do or bring to this team. Maybe a change of place. And it's funny because the Giants have two of our old linemen over there. Luminor is one of them. Right? He's over there right now, so.

Raider Wil (01:08:13.784)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:08:16.097)
Yeah, like trades like that, I would like to see, right? But when you say like, go get, what did James say? Asante Samuel, like, no, no. Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:08:26.201)
But here's the biggest thing, right? And I think here's where Raider Nation for the most part has a big misconception. Big names, don't guarantee wins. And this is where good coaches and good players take wins, okay? And it's, go ahead.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:08:37.748)
No, they don't.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:08:44.802)
And I was it can happen if your team is set up you look at the book in years, right? The book in years were set up a certain way and they needed their guy They went out and they got Brady right? What did Brady do? Hmm. I have no one guy we could bring in that can change this offense

Somebody nobody wanted and they got Antonio Brown, right? And they went on their Super Bowl run and they won the Super Bowl. They already had a great defensive line. They had a good running game, good old line. All they needed was that guy, which was Tom and Tom brought Antonio with them. But that coaching staff was able to manage that. You have to be able to be able to handle that because I think that Arians won that right then he retired and then a new coach took over and that's what AB went right.

Raider Wil (01:09:28.889)
And that's why I brought here. Yeah, and that's Todd Boles. Todd Boles took over, and now that team has got, know, and Arian's is still around that program. You know, he's still in the show. Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:09:33.986)
Yeah, bowls, there you go.

Right, right, right. And it showed when they brought in Baker. Look at what they did after Tom. They brought in Baker.

Raider Wil (01:09:48.633)
And they're having success, bro. And this is where I'm like, yo, it's going to take so, and I know Raider Nation is like, man, Mark Davis needs to sell the team. And this is where I'm, so, and I have a big problem with that, dude, because this dude is trying. And I'm going to say it because I see it now.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:10:00.177)
my lord.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:10:09.088)
Yeah, you're about to lose all our Bay Area followers right now.

Raider Wil (01:10:13.21)
You know what?

Raider Wil (01:10:17.942)
I can't say I know I get what you're saying there man and I know the hate right there and I get where they're coming from much love to our Bay area people but at the same time what I'm saying is this he's hired the young coach he's hired the popular guy he's hired John Gruden to try to go back to the glory he's hired Pete Carroll who has a great reputation and none of these guys have come up

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:10:41.922)
Even Josh McDaniels was the big name when he was up for head coach as much as we didn't like him the media praised that hire remember

Raider Wil (01:10:45.6)
Exactly.

Raider Wil (01:10:51.322)
Yes, and he was the highest Raider coach at the time and that's why people were like, you know, I think it was him or who else? Who else was the big name? Yeah, I think it was him. So like, and then we got one of them and we were like, OK, you know, things are going to change. And I think the biggest thing is now Raider Nation has to be a

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:11:02.358)
Gable. Gable? Was it Gable from the Giants? Yeah. I think it was those two.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:11:20.566)
Thank you, Ronnie. Yes.

Raider Wil (01:11:20.856)
patient he will not sell he wants to win just as bad as absolutely wrong 100 %

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:11:26.198)
He does. And shout out to Steven. Steven said it. And he's from Sacramento. He's from that area. You can't blame Mark because Mark is willing to put his money where his mouth is. Right? Even if it means paying a coach that didn't work out, I'm still paying them. But I'm going to try and bring somebody else in. Yeah. Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:11:37.338)
100 %

Raider Wil (01:11:47.714)
Yeah. And I mean, like, people go like, we should just fire and hire all these guys. Bro, I don't see you writing no checks. I mean, like, these guys are getting paid for five years still. Coach's contracts are guaranteed. This is why it's so great.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:12:01.092)
Yeah

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:12:07.03)
And if he was a bad owner, he wouldn't do that. He wouldn't let us sit through that misery that was Josh McDaniel's and run those contractors.

Raider Wil (01:12:17.198)
If we were the Bengals or the Browns, guaranteed! Guaranteed! And I'm gonna get them on the cheap too!

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:12:20.29)
Y'all gonna have to wait till this contract is up before I find somebody else. All right, yeah. that to his credit, like he doesn't do that.

Raider Wil (01:12:33.602)
And I like that man and I like that he's out there always putting in things and putting in work and trying to do the right thing, right? So when Raider Nation goes out there and they go like, no man, no, we can't have that guy there. Bro, that upsets me.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:12:48.64)
There you go, G. Smarten up. Remember that? That was here in LA when he did that. my god.

Raider Wil (01:12:54.958)
my god

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:12:56.853)
Ahem.

Raider Wil (01:12:58.98)
but I think it's frustrating man for him too. You know? Because like, and I'm gonna tell you like this, ain't nobody wanna be known as a fucking loser.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:13:01.57)
I'm sure it is.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:13:10.208)
No.

Raider Wil (01:13:12.408)
like going around I don't care that you're a billionaire yeah I'm a billionaire yeah he's a philip but in his realm bro like he hangs around under other billionaires and all of them have success and what are they gonna tell him nice job getting your daddy's money your team sucks you know he wants to have his own sweat

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:13:30.178)
But even then you think about the financial situation the Raiders were when he took over Nowhere near where they are now. I remember hearing may up I remember may I can interview talking about when he got there They wanted to bring in players, but they didn't have the cash to give these guys signing bonuses because the franchise was that poor

Raider Wil (01:13:39.546)
We were freaking upside down.

Raider Wil (01:13:51.256)
Mm-hmm.

Raider Wil (01:13:55.419)
Bro, do you remember too where we were so financially strapped every year? We had contracts bro from... I was like, what? They're like, oh yeah, we can't I'm like, we can't sign nobody. We didn't sign anybody for the past 10 years. Oh.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:14:00.348)
my god, yeah.

Yeah, I'm-

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:14:12.482)
And it seems like when one GM comes, they try to clean it up, but they're not here long enough to be able to make the impact they want to. Like to Ziegler's credit, he inherited a bunch of bullshit as contract from the Gruden Mayock era. So he can only do so much in free agency, but he was attached to Josh McDaniel. So he had to go, right?

Raider Wil (01:14:33.242)
And this is like where I'm with Ronnie. He says I'm done with the coaching changes. Let's get on the same page. And I agree with that. Now I don't think we need to get rid of like you know like our head coach and our offensive coordinator in our DC. Do I think there's people below them that we are investigating? Absolutely.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:14:36.566)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:14:40.225)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:14:43.659)
Me too.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:14:54.176)
Yeah, absolutely. Investigate it. Like, are they part of this gambling thing that's going on?

Raider Wil (01:15:03.582)
Hey, they might be. Hey, NFL, you need to do a check right now. Check Nate Carroll and Brennan Carroll for point skimming on the Raiders because we're getting blown out by those two positions. I'm just talking with you, man. I'm like, geez, only on YouTube, right?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:15:06.05)
it

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:15:13.344)
Yeah.

Love.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:15:21.018)
And I think that's why I've always been, even if it's frustrating, you got to give the guy at least two years, wherever we bring in. And if you don't see any progress, then you can start talking about moving forward, right? What made this situation unique was when they were ready to move on from AP, remember they filed to Lesko before they fired the coach, right? Which was weird, you don't normally do that. But...

I think knowing the fact that Pete Carroll became available, Mark was like, I can get an experienced guy to come in here.

Maybe he's above his head because he's new and it's true. There's brand new coach brand new coach. So I get that part. But the fact that now people are like, now you got to fire Carol. You know, I can't stand Carol. You know, I can't I'm an ordained fan. I can't stand that fool, but you have to give them time to try to implement what they're doing. And if that means we're going to struggle for this year, Hey, look at the bright side. We don't have to tank. You're going to get a top pick just because we're that bad.

Raider Wil (01:16:20.026)
You know what, I like what you just said, man. There's a reason we're friends. For me, like, bro, I give them three years. And this is what I do, okay? Because me as a coach, right? I look at it that way. Three year program. First year, you're coming in, you're tearing down the program, you're putting in your culture. Exactly. You do a lot of evaluation, you look at it, you try to put them in the best positions, you're starting to learn your players.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:16:31.266)
Alright, big look.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:16:40.514)
You're evaluating who's here. Yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Raider Wil (01:16:49.198)
Year one, all right, done. Then you go into year two, you draft your players that you want to see in your program. You got your own scouts going, you got everything going. You should see some changes. You should see some progress in year two, especially around game eight or nine. Yeah, you should see some major changes from the team.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:16:57.984)
your own. Right.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:17:08.834)
But like what we were expecting this year. Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:17:17.4)
Then in year three, you start competing. And that's exactly what we do when we go to Europe. We tell every single program that we coach, we go, year one, I'm not guaranteeing you a championship. I'm guaranteeing you that we're rebuilding, that we're going to see, and we're going to evaluate.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:17:32.758)
huh.

Raider Wil (01:17:36.762)
In year two, we're going to be more competitive. In year three, we should be a playoff team. In year four, we should be competing for the division. And in year five, you should be winning. The whole champion. And that's our method. And I mean, we've done it for the rest of the world. Yeah. Howie Roseman. And that's why everybody's trying to follow that model now.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:17:42.796)
Right.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:17:48.982)
Making a run for the Super Bowl.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:17:55.008)
That's what Philly

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:18:05.666)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:18:06.339)
You know, and I think Raider Nation is just so fed up with losing that they're not patient enough to see any of that anymore. They want to see immediate results and we're not going to have any of that. And we're not going to have it on a consistent basis unless we put in a program that we allow that comes in and puts in their own guys and does things for two or three years. And Ronnie said it, yeah, Carol only has three years left on his contract.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:18:13.568)
No.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:18:31.714)
Nothing he means in his life. Hey, what a Gio. Yeah, I've been to a steep. I'm not a big fan. People love that big atomic burrito. I'm not a big fan of it. Yeah, it's good.

Raider Wil (01:18:47.066)
my gosh, we're not winning in 27.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:18:48.801)
I

Raider Wil (01:18:53.243)
But

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:18:55.938)
I it and I understand that, but what I think what throws it off, I honestly think that what would have made the nation feel better, it's if they had drafted a future quarterback. Cause if we're doing two and five, but it's our future quarterback, right? A rookie. I think the nation would be a little more patient because you're doing it with a rookie, you know?

Raider Wil (01:19:18.713)
You want to know what I think the Raider Nation would be doing?

Why didn't we hire a vet? Why didn't we get a vet? Why didn't we get Gino? I told you, Gino was the solution. That's the graph. We should have drafted Jackson Dart instead.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:19:25.89)
You're probably right.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:19:31.614)
Right, right, right. Trade, trade for Baker. no, what's the other one? Trade for, what's the guy that's just sitting on the bench over there in Detroit? he went to Tennessee. He was a big one that people kept saying we should go get. I forgot his name, but yeah, that was the one over there.

Raider Wil (01:19:54.107)
And that's where it's difficult. I was like, damn, man, I'm my man's over here already signing on up his life contract. I'm like,

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:19:55.618)
He did mean his coaching career. My bad.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:20:07.382)
Well, because some people joke around about that about he only asked the years. That's always got left But I think to Mark's credit again you think about the contract he gave her in ten years Ten years without even having proven that you can still coach from when the last time you were here, you know Without boy, I think he gave Josh McDaniel's five five five Look at what now with three three and the hooker. That's the one Joe

Raider Wil (01:20:23.576)
without blinking bro without blinking

Raider Wil (01:20:29.828)
Five. And it gave Chip Kelly six.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:20:37.27)
Yeah, yeah Which is my botherance because they wouldn't do that with Cliff Kingsbury

Raider Wil (01:20:39.672)
And then he gives Chip Kelly $6 million.

Raider Wil (01:20:46.234)
So again, and I think he learned that from that mistake. And I'm going to tell you, he was like, man, we made that mistake. I'm not going to do it again.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:20:52.83)
Had I give Cliff that extra year, maybe that would have been different with him with Pierce.

Raider Wil (01:20:56.3)
Exactly. And I think he regrets that. I think that was the one move where he was like, man, we should have pulled the trigger on that. I didn't set up my guy. And that's where he gave Pete Carroll the ability to get this guy. But I don't know what Pete Carroll is doing.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:21:05.654)
Yeah, we should have gave him that extra year.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:21:14.14)
Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:21:17.21)
I'd be like, and it's frustrating for me because he's not an offensive guy, Cheeto. He's a defensive coordinator.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:21:22.85)
Oh, it's D. Yeah, he's defensive back coach at that.

Raider Wil (01:21:25.634)
Yeah, he's a defensive guy. So he has like a mentality of saying, we're going to run it. And I think another thing that Raider Nation got really happy about was when Pete Carroll came in and said, we're going to win a lot.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:21:38.816)
Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:21:40.715)
I see it. I see our roster.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:21:43.458)
I win 10 games every year.

Raider Wil (01:21:49.112)
Yeah, and then everybody was like, I'm going to drink the Kool-Aid. I'm a snake.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:21:52.282)
And it was funny because I remember when he said that I think I did a video and he said I win 10 games every year and I was like Raiders are about to say hold on people my beer real quick not here buddy. Not here.

Raider Wil (01:22:06.332)
And that's the thing. And big luck. We didn't get Clift Kingsbury. It wasn't because we didn't get JD5. It was because they didn't give him another year on his contract.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:22:12.726)
They didn't give him another year.

Yeah, I think they were only going to offer two and he wanted three or He wanted three Yeah, this is before the draft. Yeah. Yeah, this is before the draft

Raider Wil (01:22:19.323)
They wanted two years and he wanted three.

and the Raiders wouldn't budge on it. And then he wanted us to make a move for JD5.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:22:29.152)
He did want that. Yeah. But so did did coach Pierce.

Raider Wil (01:22:32.891)
Yeah, and here's the thing, everybody wanted to make a move for JD5.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:22:37.92)
And we had coupon Tom at the time.

Raider Wil (01:22:42.616)
And that's the thing. mean, like, did Tom make the call? Didn't he make the call? Dun, dun. Who knows?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:22:47.042)
Right, all the rumors come in. Yeah, he did. you know, and to their credit, I don't think any of those teams were going to give up that pick. You look at who it was. It was Caleb, Drake May, and JD5. None of those teams wanted to move from where they were at. They knew this was going to be our future God. I don't care what the hall was. You don't just give up that hall.

Raider Wil (01:23:07.547)
100 %

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:23:15.158)
When you can be like, we can get our guy with this pic. Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:23:19.611)
And that's where I was like, you know, I get what people want. I get what people see and I get everything that people think, right? Where they were like, we could have done this. We should have done that. You know, JD and Cleese Kingsbury were the solution. That's why AP failed. Who knows? What I see from this step is that Mark made the...

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:23:43.84)
Yeah. Don't forget, they let Josh Jacobs walk also. They let Josh Jacobs walk.

Raider Wil (01:23:50.327)
Max bro! I have to give you like 10 points for that one bro. I lay shooting at the buzzard right there. That right there killed the Raiders. It set the Raiders back and now we had to draft another running back in the 6th round. First pick of the draft 6th round. When we could have what?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:23:59.266)
There you go.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:24:04.802)
Mm-hmm.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:24:09.142)
Mm-hmm. Right. You're not even paying him, not even that much more than you would have given Jacob's to stay. Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:24:19.673)
Yeah. Exactly. So again, we look at it and we're like, man, lots of mistakes have been made, lots of things like that. But what I see is Mark is trying to improve. Like you said, Mark tried to make the right thing happen, tried to set up Pete Carroll for success, tried to do all the things that we need to do. But.

I don't know man, mean like we'll have to see. mean like the bye week now is coming in. of things need to be changed and not lots of things need to come into involvement for Raider Nation obviously. Man, you know. Okay.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:24:59.094)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:25:02.882)
I'll tell Reader Nation this, if you're expecting like a big blockbuster trade that's gonna change our team before the trade deadline, if you're gonna be on that watching Mitchell Rents when he does his trade day show, don't hold your breath. Nothing's gonna happen like that. The NFL doesn't work that way. It's not like the MLB, it's not like the NBA on the trade deadline, right? There's some trades that happen, but nothing of that magnitude rarely ever happens.

Raider Wil (01:25:10.788)
No.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:25:31.808)
And there's nothing really out there that we're going to be able to trade for. That's going to change our team like that instantly. mean, let's go get Josh Allen. Fuck it. Send him the next draft for the next five years. You know?

Raider Wil (01:25:46.245)
Don't keep up below doing that. That's the thing, right? There's no player that can't calibrate.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:25:48.32)
That's the thing. Yeah. But what does James say? You don't know unless you try.

Raider Wil (01:25:56.347)
I love James bro. I love him. And I mean like, and that's where I think I get his frustration. And I get where like he wants young, you know.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:26:02.758)
Mm-hmm. Exactly, big look. Yeah. And it's true. I'll say this for the younger Raider fans.

Maybe it wasn't my when my nephew switched over from Kansas City to the Raiders, it was 2020. So the following year was the year we started off good. Remember then rooting out let go rugs incident happened, but we still made the playoffs. So for Noah, my little nephew, that was probably his first full year as a Raider fan. So in his mind, my team's fucking good. My uncle's right. This is a good ass team.

Right? And then uncle, I told him we got Devonte Adams. Wait till you see this guy. nephew became an instant Devonte Adams fan, right? We're about to do something. And then what happens? It didn't work out with Josh McDaniels. Now my nephew's over here like, damn, we suck, uncle. Yeah, you're right. We do. We do.

Raider Wil (01:26:59.475)
So let me ask you though, okay, now that you've gone through this with your nephew, and I mean, I go through this with my son and my son's like, Dad, I don't know. Like, I can't be a Raiders fan, Dad. He's like, I can't do it anymore. And I'm like, do you, son? I don't either.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:27:13.654)
You

I don't force people. I know it's funny because I posted that.

Raider Wil (01:27:23.172)
I don't, but I'll be like, what do you, but I mean like, what do you do to comfort somebody like that? I mean like to comfort a kid in.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:27:29.954)
We watched the game together because we do our thing. I'm not here most of the time, right? I'm not here, but they asked me to be here for this past one, so to our birthdays or whatever. So me being here to watch the game with him, he enjoyed it. When I took him to the derby room over in Paris, he enjoyed it. Yeah, so doing things like that is what keeps them wanting to still be a Raider fan. So it goes back to your brotherhood with the nation.

Raider Wil (01:27:58.329)
Yeah, I get it.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:27:59.774)
I wish this fool wasn't grounded. If he wasn't grounded, I would take him with me to Las Vegas.

Raider Wil (01:28:03.995)
He said, I wish this fool wasn't drunk. He's calling him out right now.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:28:07.403)
Yeah, I tell him all the time. his dad, dude, his dad reminds him constantly. He's like, you know where your uncle's going, right? For his birthday. He's going to Vegas. You know who's not going?

Raider Wil (01:28:21.071)
You.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:28:22.988)
Dude, there's a wrestling event on Monday. I don't even know if I can take them. Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:28:30.843)
Well, all you

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:28:33.504)
There no but to your point I think that that's how you keep them still Because we went to go watch the game against the commanders And rivers also took him twice I took him in a riverside Paris and I took him the riverside at the beach with with rock So he did two watch parties. Uh-huh. And then we did the one here So three games and in those three games, even though we lost he had a good time with me

He was up on the stage with me. He was on the microphone yelling Raiders. He was over there saying Cheeto sucks and everybody was like, yeah. I think that's how you keep them to still be part of the nation. That's what he remembers. That's what I remember as a kid doing that with my uncles. Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:28:56.73)
No, I-

Raider Wil (01:29:00.932)
Okay.

Raider Wil (01:29:05.221)
you

Raider Wil (01:29:16.843)
I agree with you with that man and I think having fun and like going out and doing things at the events and like just making it live and making sure that you're like doing other things besides watching us get killed on fucking TV. Like make it fun. But yeah. So check this out. Predator already came out. He said, hey, what point do we tell Mark to sell the team?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:29:24.086)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:29:39.394)
That is such a delusional thought. What makes Raider Nation think we have so much control that we're going to go over there? Hey, Mark, you know those billions you're making? Sell the team.

Raider Wil (01:29:55.213)
And again, I don't think it goes back to Mark not trying to make this team successful.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:29:58.42)
No, he's trying to make the right choices. Nobody could sit here and tell me that they knew all those choices he made were going to be bad ones. The media was praising him for Carol, praising him for Josh McDaniels. 50-50 on AP, they were like, you got to keep the culture. You got to keep your guys happy. So Mark made the wise decision by keeping him around. Rigby Sasha the goat.

Raider Wil (01:30:11.645)
That's it.

Raider Wil (01:30:24.186)
Alright, Ronnie has... the Irish prasad show has begun. Alright.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:30:28.054)
You know, I like Rich, but I'll tell you this. Rich does not have what it takes to be a head coach either. What ran that team the majority of the time was Carr and that offensive coordinator and having Gus Bradley as your DC. Gus Bradley is the seasoned coach. He don't need a head coach over him telling him how to run his defense.

Raider Wil (01:30:45.916)
Carol and Gus badly were together in Seattle. That's where the cover three scheme comes from. You know and you know what? I like this question right here. What do you think? What do you think happens with Jacobi trade or does he finish the season with the rain?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:30:51.265)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:30:54.848)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:31:04.226)
Honestly, Don't think there's much of a market for him other than the Patriots I think the Patriots are the team that won and he played for Josh Josh brought him over here from New England to us So there's obviously something there if you look at what they're doing They could use a guy like Kobe to make them better But I think it all depends on what they're offering if the Raiders are gonna accept that as enough compensation for him, right?

Yeah, or even maybe Pittsburgh, maybe. Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:31:35.355)
I'm gonna tell you right now the one a the one up front is Patriots and they're like, hey, man, we ready to bag you again

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:31:39.777)
New England.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:31:44.212)
Mm-hmm, and we do it we deal with them a lot so could see it happening mark and craft have yeah

Raider Wil (01:31:48.868)
And we always get our asses handed to us. No matter what. Bro, they can send us a player. we're going to get a great player from them. He comes back.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:31:58.25)
But no, we got Richard Seymour from them. wasn't. Come on now. He's part owner now too. Seymour. I forgot about that.

Raider Wil (01:32:02.524)
No, that's true.

Yeah. But I mean, like when you look at that, man, I'm like, they're going to trade them. And I'm like, and you're right, we're going to get minimal trade value for him because right now we're not having a good season. He's injured. He's at the bottom. And I mean, like, what are we going to get a fourth or a fifth?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:32:21.886)
And is that enough compensation for you?

Raider Wil (01:32:23.982)
I shouldn't have took you for him. For a guy that's a quality number two. So then we're going to go, hey, we don't have a number one or a number two. And you're going to tell us that we're going to be more successful with that? No, bro. You're already telling me, you know, we Bowers hurt. We had the D'Croby hurt.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:32:31.936)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:32:41.282)
The fact that he's still playing even though he's made it known like I want to be traded because they're not paying me here But the fact that he continues to say the reason I'm still playing this for my brothers that should tell you enough about right

Raider Wil (01:32:54.714)
Yeah, says Roddy says Jacobi is being forced to play out his contract for a payday. Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:33:01.606)
And this regime has shown that look at the majority of these contracts are one-year proven deals So we go we talk about earlier going into year two. This is gonna be a completely different team next year Yeah, a third if it's a third I do it today right now science send that over Send send the car facts. I'm doing it for a third

Raider Wil (01:33:15.132)
Agreed.

Raider Wil (01:33:25.34)
Yeah, and that's the thing. I'm like, what team is willing to give up a third, Ronnie? Like, I don't really see any team going, hey, Jacobi, I'm gonna give up a third for that guy right now. Busted up knee, toe turf, all that. I want it. I'll give you a three.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:33:37.982)
now it's yeah especially now right now when it's like it's out there like it's known that he wants out of there it's one thing if the dude doesn't want out you don't want to send him and you really want him then you got over pay well that's not the situation

Raider Wil (01:33:55.011)
Exactly. And he doesn't want out. So I'll be like, but again, this is where we go back to it and we say, man, we really got to pay the guys. We've got to take care of our people. But yo, Cheeto, let us know where you're to be up this weekend, man. Let the people know where they can go out and have some fun and enjoy themselves and get out of the funk and see some people out there and just hang out.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:33:59.232)
Yeah.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:34:13.378)
.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:34:20.78)
Let me get the actual address and I'll give you the actual address right now. Hold on.

Raider Wil (01:34:32.08)
We'll tell you guys if you guys are in Grand Junction, Colorado, we will be doing the trunk of tree over there for the hospital and stuff and going around and doing other things. So make sure that you guys stand locked into our TBH Westco page so that way you guys can come out, get some candies, enjoy some time with the kids and do some trunk of tree.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:34:56.514)
So basically we will be in San Diego this Saturday

Raider Wil (01:35:07.228)
We got people saying the Patriots, the Lions, Cleveland, or Jacoby, all possible trade partners.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:35:13.772)
For what? For Jacobi?

Hmm, I don't know what the Lions wouldn't be a bad situation for him. Cleveland, I don't know what Cleveland would do. Yeah, the Bucks.

Raider Wil (01:35:21.732)
Ronnie said the bucks?

Hey, no doubt right now, man, with John is bringing his two brothers, like that roster is pretty loaded right there with the kumbos.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:35:34.922)
Okay, I got it. So Saturday, October 25th, San Diego Nomads, the Nomads of San Diego.

Are gonna be having a Raider Nation picnic Chula Vista Marina Marina View Park that is 900 Marina Parkway in Chula Vista, California So if you're gonna be down there, we will be there I will be there with the homie MC Raider. My boy Mike from Raiders Against the World will be there Andy Raider merch is gonna be there. So a bunch of other vendors on brown bag cookies brown bag cookies I think she's gonna be there. Yeah, I think she told me she was gonna she was gonna be there and then of course the Nomads and I'm pretty sure some

Raider Wil (01:36:06.881)
Yeah, yeah, but I'm gonna cut you in

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:36:12.844)
the misfits are gonna... bye bye. Maybe my flag will turn up, bastards. Whoever stole, whoever took my flag by mistake in Rosarito, if it happens to reappear in San Diego, I won't even question where it was. I just want it back.

Raider Wil (01:36:18.396)
Are you for one?

Raider Wil (01:36:30.712)
I was probably hanging in somebody's bathroom right now. He was using like a shower curtain.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:36:33.098)
No, man. And it was funny because I was like, why would somebody want to steal my flylight? Why do they want my logo? But I remember it's because I have Max on that fly. Max Crosby's on that fly. Yeah. On this one, it's Pierce and Coontz. Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:36:44.028)
Hmm.

Raider Wil (01:36:51.952)
Bro, maybe they're trying to steal your identity. Maybe they want to be Cheeto-linus.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:36:53.922)
There was one guy on Facebook. I forgot his name. bad Myra's not in this chat. But there was this dude trying to hit up at people saying he was me. Yeah. She goes, look, you got people trying to pretend they're you. And I was like, wow. Yeah, man.

Raider Wil (01:37:05.884)
What?

Raider Wil (01:37:12.704)
This is why we got the world famous, not so famous, Tito Linus on the show. He's just a famous guy with the podcast. Or not a famous guy, just a guy with the podcast. He's just a Raiders fan with the podcast.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:37:20.748)
Day.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:37:24.844)
Raider fan.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:37:29.122)
Yes sir,

Raider Wil (01:37:31.526)
But yo, my brother, I want to thank you for so much for coming on the show, man, and bringing your insight and your fun and your personality to it, man. I really enjoyed having you on. I going to do one by myself. I was going to do my first Bob-O's solo show. was like,

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:37:45.282)
Man, I'm glad I got home when I did. was able to hop on. thought you was on with your gang, but I guess they weren't on today.

Raider Wil (01:37:50.19)
Yeah, usually I am man, but you know, hey, things happen, things go forward and I'll be like, Hey, Raider Nation, keep pushing forward. Is it a motel for promotion? I said, teach him.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:37:58.556)
We were in Rosarito, but okay, yeah

Raider Wil (01:38:05.277)
But hey y'all make sure you guys stay locked in man. Yeah man hey we're gonna be doing something on Friday nights is that right Cheeto? Is that what we were talking about?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:38:07.554)
Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Appreciate it. Definitely got to do this again.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:38:16.642)
Yeah, I gotta get together with you and James, see when we start that,

Raider Wil (01:38:19.824)
Yeah, man, hey guys, stay tuned, because hey, you never know what we're going to be doing.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:38:23.298)
Maybe after the World Series right now because my Fridays are gonna be a little occupied

Raider Wil (01:38:28.472)
occupied until October's done, you know, right around there until Dodgers.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:38:32.066)
Yes, yes. I was thinking that I was like, wait, tomorrow's the dodge again. I'm like, you're nothing. Yeah. Oh, you can tell when there's something on and I'm doing the show and I'm not paying. So CalSoul always would call me out. doing a show and there'd be like a wrestling paper of you on and they'd be like, she don't even listening. I was just like,

Raider Wil (01:38:38.3)
So.

Raider Wil (01:38:54.471)
He's like, the TV's right there, he's like, what?

We're treating Matt Crabby, yeah. There we are.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:39:00.982)
Yeah, okay, cool, yeah. Yeah, so I know better than to go online when I'm trying to watch something else. Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:39:09.828)
No, I got you bad. Well, I mean, guys, make sure you guys like, share, subscribe and man, hit that little bell button. So that way you guys know whenever we go live and I know Cheeto, let them know how many shows you got going on a week.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:39:20.363)
Sure.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:39:25.274)
man, it's insane. Sometimes it's too much, think. But know Monday I do my own show, Put a Raider podcast. It's me, my homie, Chona, my homeboy Johnny. We got Queen V from West Valley Raiders. then of course we got Raider Loves, Raquel, she goes by Raider Loves. We got Raquel on there with us. And then Tuesday we got the Most Notorious podcast, of course. We got that. And then what is the other one? On Wednesday I do the Raider Connection with Jeff, my boy Nathan, and then Raider J.

Raider Wil (01:39:54.533)
Yes, Hey, that would be doing all sorts of stuff. So hey, look at that, man. We got Stephen jumping into the chat. We got Predator saying that he wants to be the first super fan. I call it now, he says. Yes, we'll get you on here, Predator. We know that. To come on the show on Fridays.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:40:11.296)
the first super fan. Like what? To be on your show?

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:40:17.378)
we'll see. We'll see. That seems a little different. Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:40:21.5)
man, watch out. Hey, salute Stephen. Thank you so much brother. Hey, hopefully you guys are doing well. And guys, thank you guys so much for locking in. Make sure that you guys, man, just follow us and show us some love. Show everybody some love, man. Show Jeff love. Show the Raider Nate. You got LB Raider 10. We got all sorts of people.

Leo (ChidoLinus) (01:40:43.67)
That one. Mm-hmm. Man. My boy Raider Rundown. the Raider Rundown. Don't forget that one. We got that one. The state of the nation. Yes. I can't forget my boy Raider Rundown. We go on early on Mondays after whatever shenanigans happens on Sunday. He'll hit me up. Chido, you want to go live? Let me check my words schedule. 11 AM, let's go. Yeah.

Raider Wil (01:40:49.668)
Yeah, we got Raider Rundown, we got J-Raider, I be like, bro, we got, hey, the connection is wide.

Raider Wil (01:41:05.692)
man, I love this dude, Hey, but that's what it's all about, man. Raider Nation keeps supporting everybody, man. Keep supporting everybody out there doing their work. It's all love, man. And until next time, it's all about one team. It's all about one nation. It's all about the Raiders!

Raider Wil (01:41:30.285)
man, so what