Quarterback Strategies #Raiders

Summary

In this episode of the Silver and Black Radio Podcast, the hosts discuss the recent signings of Isaiah Palomao, evaluating their implications for the Raiders. The conversation shifts to the upcoming NFL Draft, particularly focusing on the significance of the sixth pick and potential strategies for selecting a quarterback. The hosts debate the merits of signing a veteran quarterback versus drafting a new one, considering the team's needs and the depth of talent available in the draft. In this conversation, the hosts discuss the potential bidding war for Matthew Stafford and the implications for NFL teams. They explore quarterback drafting strategies, particularly focusing on Shador Sanders and Jackson Dart as potential picks for the Raiders. The conversation delves into the current draft landscape, analyzing which teams might select quarterbacks and the qualities that make Shador Sanders a standout candidate. The discussion culminates in a reflection on leadership qualities and the impact of Tom Brady's mentorship on Sanders' potential success in the NFL.

Takeaways

Malcolm Coons' potential contract demands are considered excessive.
Isaiah Palomao's signing is viewed positively as a strategic move.
The sixth pick in the draft could be pivotal depending on free agency outcomes.
There is a consensus that the Raiders need to draft a quarterback soon.
The hosts express skepticism about the current quarterback options in the draft.
Matthew Stafford is discussed as a potential veteran option for the Raiders.
The importance of building a strong team foundation is emphasized.
The depth of talent in this year's draft is acknowledged.
The need for a solid offensive line is highlighted as a priority.
The conversation reflects a mix of optimism and caution regarding the Raiders' future. There's a strong belief that multiple teams will compete for Matthew Stafford.
The consensus is that a first-round pick for Stafford is unlikely.
Shadeur Sanders is viewed as a potential future leader for the Raiders.
Jackson Dart is also considered a legitimate quarterback prospect.
The draft landscape is shifting, with teams prioritizing skill players over quarterbacks.
Tom Brady's influence on Shadeur Sanders is significant.
Character and leadership qualities are crucial for a quarterback's success.
The Raiders need a quarterback with swagger and confidence.
The conversation highlights the importance of mentorship in player development.
Fans are eager to see how the draft will unfold and impact their teams.

Transcript

Raider Wil (00:01.081)
And welcome back to the silver and black radio podcast I'm your host Raider will and I am here with my boy James representing the tbh military chapter I've got my boy all in representing tbh Dallas and you got myself Raider will representing tbh westco and we're gonna talk about Malcolm Coons The isaiah palma resigning and what we're gonna do with the sixth pick in the draft. Hey

All in, take it away.

Allin (00:33.257)
I love the pow mouse signing does that mean more again? That's aren't coming back. I don't know But I like that kid. I like that kid since we drafted him So that was a good and it was a good contract. So it didn't kill us great great moves by tech Malcolm Coons If that dude's really looking for 20 a year Appreciate the nine games. We'll catch you on the flip side because

You ain't earned 20 million a year. In my opinion, I think a contract for that dude's probably two years, 20 million, give him 10 a year. He's got to prove it though, man. I mean, he had nine games. And then outside of that, ain't done much else in his rookie year, earned his rookie deal. So I'd move on, man, and go get a guy like Sweatt out of Philly, who were highly favored to land anyhow.

Or even fucking bring Kaleo Mac back for that kind of money.

Raider Wil (01:33.041)
Makes sense. What would you do with the sixth pick? There we go. got Maddie B.

Allin (01:34.123)
Yeah.

Allin (01:37.695)
Matty B, what's up, baby? The sixth pick, for me, it's really hard to say, right? Like, do we sign a quarterback before that? If we sign a quarterback before that, I think we're gonna go best player available for our need, right? Which would be a receiver or a running back. If we don't sign a quarterback, then it's gotta be a quarterback, right?

Matty B (01:40.764)
What's up,

James (TBH Military Chapter) (01:40.874)
Hey.

Raider Wil (01:41.847)
Hey, hey.

Raider Wil (02:06.93)
Yeah.

Allin (02:07.627)
Man it's that's why I'm in two weeks, you know the tent the tampering period begins So you can legally start talking to players So it's gonna be interesting to see man, which way they want to go. It's got to be a guy who's somewhat mobile so whether that's a veteran or a rookie man, I Will know how the team shapes up. I think after free agency

Raider Wil (02:36.301)
Alright brother. So Matty B, just so you know, you're on the screen sideways. Hey, brother James, go ahead brother, let us know what you thought.

Matty B (02:42.706)
Just look at that.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (02:53.642)
Okay, I'm gonna start with the Malcolm Coons situation. I agree with All In. I think 20 mil for Malcolm Coons is pretty outrageous. Yeah, I don't think he's earned anything more than 10. Honestly, I think 10, I'd like considering myself being highly generous giving him even that much. I like the idea of Josh Swett.

I also like the idea of bringing Khalil Mack back. I think I kind of lean toward a little bit more towards bringing back Khalil Mack only because I feel like in the long run that's going to be a cheaper deal and an easier deal to move on from if something doesn't work out as planned. Now as far as the pick number six, I mean I could see the pick number six going

a couple different ways between the offense and the defense. Preferably, I would like to see Shudder Sanders or Jackson Darden. That's just me. I know we ain't drafted in three weeks. I know we ain't drafted I know know

Raider Wil (03:59.518)
Hey, go ahead, stand on your chest right now. Tell us, hey, he's been on the pedestal already. Shit you, shit you.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (04:08.05)
I know, I know, so, and so I know we haven't drafted a cute quarterback in the first round since your Marcus Russell. And I know it's Marcus Russell was a train wreck in a nice way. That's the nice way of putting it. but I think the Raider nation needs to get over that and really push for that first round pick to be a quarterback because.

Allin (04:09.618)
Hey, that's where I've been there too, but if...

Raider Wil (04:18.813)
Hmm

James (TBH Military Chapter) (04:37.362)
It didn't work out when we drafted in O'Connell clearly. We've had, we've had other QBs where we drafted even Derek Carr. Yeah. Derek Carr stayed around for nine years, but it was nine years of us still losing. You know what saying? Sure. There was highs, but that when the lows were there, they were low, very low. And, you know, I mean, I think it's time to address that position in the first round. I think the best way to do that is you grab a vet and you draft.

first round. Now if you're not going to take a quarterback, right, the Raiders don't, if they're not buying into any of those three, right, they're don't buy into Jackson Dar or Shador, I'm not even going to mention Ken Ward because I don't think that's going to be even part of the present. If they don't buy into either of those two, as far as the offensive player I like, I like the idea of Titoria McMillan still, just because that replaces your spot.

Allin (05:21.223)
He'll be gone.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (05:37.032)
your wide receiver one, gives you another option out there. Defensive wise, I've become very fond of Will Johnson out of Michigan.

Allin (05:47.333)
was just going to say Will Johnson is a guy I'd like to see.

Raider Wil (05:47.867)
Mmm. Eeeewww!

James (TBH Military Chapter) (05:51.822)
I think Will Johnson kind of gives me a little bit of the Sea Wood vibes. So I like Will Johnson, I his aggressive style of play.

Raider Wil (06:04.347)
got you yo Matty B so the questions were this what do you think about the Isaiah Palomao signing Malcolm Coots and what would you do with the sixth round pick or with the first pick in the draft with his six picks up

Allin (06:19.939)
And real quick, the reason we brought up Coons is because I saw a report that he's looking to get two years, 20 million years, so two years for 40.

Matty B (06:30.304)
years for 40.

Allin (06:31.427)
Yeah, and I said, fuck no.

Matty B (06:33.345)
That's a lot.

Raider Wil (06:34.781)
He said that so long.

Matty B (06:36.984)
That's going to boast the money right there, For nine games, yeah.

Allin (06:39.031)
That's a lot for nine games.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (06:42.13)
Not even not even Joy Bosa has a job now.

Matty B (06:44.856)
Right.

Raider Wil (06:45.575)
Dope, right?

Allin (06:46.186)
Eh, technically he's still a charger.

Raider Wil (06:48.647)
It's you

Matty B (06:49.526)
Now, so, the Palomar sign and get back to that one. I think, I think it was a great signing. you the truth, I think that was the definitely one that we needed to keep in house. With that signing, I think we're letting Marcus Epps go. Honestly, I think if we're going to spend big money on free agency and we're going to keep our own, think we're going to keep Mary. And I think we let Marcus Epps go, which is the reason why we kept.

the younger guy, Paul Amau. So I think we'll keep that younger, that younger safety core in the backfield. In my opinion. I mean, he's a top 10 dude, Mary's a top 10 defensive safety right now, man. So, I mean, he's going to get good money. And if we're going to spend big on our free agents in house, might as well keep him. Cause I think it's too much. is too much, man. Like there's no way we're keeping Coons for that price. unless you take some kind of friendly team deal to stay for a year or something.

Allin (07:23.427)
I ain't mad about that.

Allin (07:37.059)
Well, he's the top safety on the market too.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (07:43.473)
So, you.

Matty B (07:47.607)
and then do like a prove it deal, but I don't see a signing comes for that. And if in my opinion, think if we keep somebody on defense and we go out on them, it's going to be married. I think Spillane, well, I'm sorry, I won't even get into that. No, I won't even get into that one. But anyways, so the second question was,

Raider Wil (08:03.398)
Bitch.

Raider Wil (08:09.639)
We we said Isaiah Palomao, Malcolm Coons, and what do we do with the sixth pick in the first round?

Matty B (08:12.253)
Mm-hmm. In the mouth of the pimp.

Okay, well, Malcolm Coons, that's too much of a price. So, I mean, like I said, if you stay for a friendly team deal, then we keep him. the takes overall.

Allin (08:24.667)
We all said that we'd be good with two years at 20 million, give them 10 a year. That's a fair price.

Matty B (08:30.455)
I'd be good with that. I'd be good with that. That's a fair price for nine games. Maybe you get that extension or a little bit more in the next year if you show up and play hard your first year. Maybe they give you that little extension on the end of that. But that six pick, man, think honestly, to tell you the truth, I think it's going to all depend on our free agency. If we go out and we get a quarterback and free agency, a veteran,

We're gonna wait till probably the second, maybe third round to pick up a quarterback. don't think we'll waste, because I think we can address other needs when it comes to.

Raider Wil (09:03.111)
First.

Allin (09:05.035)
and even waste the pick on the guy in the later rounds in this draft.

Matty B (09:09.078)
What's that?

Allin (09:10.111)
I wouldn't even waste a pick on any of the guys in the later rounds in my opinion. Build the team out.

Matty B (09:13.691)
I mean like if a Jackson darts there something like that if he does fall out or anything like that I mean there's a couple players in there that it looked pretty decent but I mean if we got somebody like that in the second round then you know I think that's pretty good for us I mean Jack darts moving up the board you know you're not lying I don't think you get out of the first round but if he does he might be he might be right now nobody knows what the top tens look like man I mean this draft isn't really

Allin (09:18.571)
He'll be a top 10. Darts can be a top 10.

Raider Wil (09:19.589)
Yeah, I can't what he said,

Allin (09:33.248)
I don't think he gets out in the top 10 in my opinion.

Allin (09:41.754)
Y'all called me crazy last year when I told you six quarterbacks Remember I told you all six quarterbacks were gonna be gone by the time we picked or whenever it was five I said all the top dogs would be gone

Matty B (09:42.263)
There's not really a solid player at any position in this draft.

Raider Wil (09:50.95)
Yeah.

Matty B (09:51.158)
Right?

But I mean, hey, we could still even jump back into the first round. You know, I mean, if like I said, it all depends on our draft or our pre-agency, honestly, to tell you the truth, because if we don't get a, if we don't get a bet, yeah, we're going to move up. We'll give our assets to get whatever quarterback we can in this draft and move up to get him. But if we don't, if we don't get a bet, then that's the way we move. If we do get a bet, then I see us maybe jumping back into the first round and getting a quarterback or wait until the second round and doing some picks around there.

Allin (09:57.428)
Yeah.

Allin (10:22.879)
There's a lot of solid, man, there's so much depth and talent in this draft at all the positions.

Raider Wil (10:23.197)
All right.

Matty B (10:34.002)
When, I said, there's not really like a solid number one player out of this draft, dude, that you could actually be like, I think to everybody in this draft, like you said, a depth, like a lot of depth player and you might find diamond in the road.

Allin (10:35.231)
I gonna land, I think we can land a dar or a chador.

Allin (10:45.243)
I think Abdul Carter is probably...

Raider Wil (10:48.029)
There's dudes, but they're not at the quarterback position. Last year's draft was so quarterback heavy and quarterback rich that everybody was like, this is the draft. Did draft the quarterback for that fact. This year, quarterback needy teams, you got two dudes maybe, and they're not even a clear. I'll ask you guys this. Do you see a Jaden Daniels out there?

Allin (11:16.543)
you

Raider Wil (11:16.679)
Do you see a guy that's going to be a J.N. Daniels type that's going to come to the league right now? James?

James (TBH Military Chapter) (11:22.91)
Jackson Dart.

Raider Wil (11:24.711)
Okay.

Allin (11:25.018)
Now, it's doing what Jayden's doing? No shot. No shot.

Raider Wil (11:29.757)
Hey,

James (TBH Military Chapter) (11:31.306)
If Bo Nicks can do it, Jackson Dart can do it.

Allin (11:35.464)
BoNix is a product in my opinion of the system.

Matty B (11:39.344)
He's definitely a product of the system.

Raider Wil (11:39.374)
But it doesn't matter, that's the thing though. Hey, Daniels, so hey, hey, tell me Daniels is not a product of the system too then.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (11:39.636)
He went to...

Allin (11:40.989)
I don't think dark man. I just

Are we talking talent for talent or what? I think Daniels could go play any system and be fine.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (11:48.946)
Okay, okay. Now, now right or wrong, Bo Nicks turned around that team though.

Allin (11:57.629)
Bo Nicks solely to a point. No, but they had a good, I mean they, had a defense man. Even last year they had a defense. They were on the, I mean, look at what they did with Russ at the end of last season. They were on the brink of, they were on the brink of a playoff game, a playoff push last year with Russ.

Matty B (11:58.073)
To a point. I mean, I'm not gonna say he turned around that stadium. To a point. Yeah, he wasn't.

Raider Wil (11:58.77)
Wrong, wrong, to a point, to a point, to a point.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (12:07.666)
Yeah, but yeah, but he our friends of weapons. Yeah, but okay.

Matty B (12:10.927)
Dude, if it, but if you honestly think about it.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (12:15.326)
But if you look at that offense, he has a receiver core of garbage, with the exception of Courtland Sutton. You might as put a bunch of trash cans out there in the, there's Courtland Sutton.

Matty B (12:23.695)
Yeah, but you think about this though, man. So you got a defense that can put somebody back and turn the ball over and put you in good position to score. You don't have to have a great offensive weapon. Look at us, man. We had Jacobi Myers. That's the only guy we had besides Brock Bowers. We didn't have anybody else. So, I mean, but we did pretty decent. Our defense was solid to a point with the backups and shit we had.

Raider Wil (12:49.753)
Here's the thing though, let's be real There There isn't a guy in the draft that you're saying hey I can put all my marbles on and that guy's gonna be a stud. I'll be an archer manning next year People are saying that this guy's gonna be the next prodigal son. I'll be like you guys already know how that whole lineage intrigue goes

Allin (13:12.25)
Yeah, but man, they're putting a lot on that too. that's just all talk. Like he's, yeah, he played great against nobody this year in a few games, but.

Matty B (13:17.358)
Well then.

Matty B (13:21.518)
That's the case. That's just when you tell Tom Brady's kids fucking become fucking NFL stars and wait for that to happen.

Raider Wil (13:24.733)
Shit we're gonna wait we're gonna be dead by that time fucking raiders never would assume but hey, all right guys So I said problem out great resigning right four point five mil at eight at that money to get us guy That's a possible starters an absolute great signing Malcolm Coons. I agree with you guys Fuckin way too much money unless he wants something that's a team friendly deal nine million dollars six pick I'm gonna hit you guys with this

If we sign a quality quarterback, a la, and I'm going to tell, and I'm going to give you guys two different types of guys, okay? If fucking Matthew Stafford comes here, I guarantee you Chip Kelly's going to find a way to modify his offense to suit Matthew Stafford's strength.

Allin (14:17.158)
Maybe an idiot nut can-

Raider Wil (14:21.273)
If we don't and if we do that, I am with you guys that we do not draft the quarterback in the first round. If we do that, we draft the quarterback maybe later on or next year. If we draft the quarterback in the first round, the reason I say this, it's giving up. We don't, we don't, we're not one position away to get a higher quality player. Okay.

If you say, we're going to Jackson Dart X6 when you have Matthew Stafford at the helm already.

That right there is a product of what we have done is rinse and repeat and fuck shit up.

Why would we draft a quarterback in the first if you have Matthew Stafford? It makes no sense. think I Think you draft up a left tackle you drop the left tackle you draft a guy that can or a right tackle Or somebody on the offensive line to beef up that line or defensive line, but alright guys James I saw you go ahead bro hit me with it if we get Matthew Stafford you are gonna use the sixth pick

Allin (15:18.64)
and you just gave up a shit time to get him.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (15:26.994)
if you want.

Thank

James (TBH Military Chapter) (15:37.226)
that

Raider Wil (15:41.04)
on a quarterback.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (15:43.208)
Yeah, doesn't make to me that doesn't make sense to even if you get Matthew Stafford Matthew Stafford is only gonna be a two-year option at best I mean you're not gonna get and even in those two years You're not gonna get hit the best play he's ever had in his entire career. That's not what you're gonna get you're gonna get that I'm falling out my prime kind of play You know I'm saying you remember when Brett Favre went to the Jets That's the kind of play you're gonna get or when Brett Favre went to the Vikings. That's the kind of play you're gonna get

Allin (16:11.81)
He followed out with the Vikings. He played really well in Minnesota. They went to the NFC Championship game.

Raider Wil (16:13.797)
Yeah, he went to the planet with the Vikings.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (16:14.09)
You know what saying?

Matty B (16:19.528)
Yeah, totally fractured his ribs.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (16:21.096)
Yeah, until he lost. He lost. He still lost. then, okay, and then what happened to the Vikings? The Vikings went that far. They had no quarterback next round. Guess what? They were too good to draft anybody. So they absolutely sucked donkey balls the next season.

Allin (16:24.608)
We ain't even been to the playoffs, so I'd be good with it.

Matty B (16:38.917)
and they went out and got their cousins. All right, well, that's maybe not their cousins.

Raider Wil (16:39.121)
Okay, so you're saying, okay, go ahead.

Allin (16:40.332)
Well here, so if you trade for Stafford, you're not gonna have the six pick. It's gonna take that first round pick to get Stafford at the end of the day. So it's a mute point to be honest.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (16:49.054)
Then in my opinion, then in my opinion, you don't, then in my opinion, you don't, don't, you pass.

Raider Wil (16:52.413)
So you pass.

Matty B (16:54.522)
You're not going to finish first round pick on Stafford. There's no way. There's no way you're there's no way you're going to spend a first round pick on Stafford.

Raider Wil (16:55.835)
Okay, okay, so you pass, okay, so you're gonna pass, hold on.

Allin (16:58.922)
Matt, Matt, there's gonna be a bidding war for Stafford. You got us, the Giants, Pittsburgh, and the Jets, who are all gonna be in on Stafford.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (17:04.202)
Bye,

James (TBH Military Chapter) (17:08.522)
I would rather take...

Matty B (17:10.309)
I see maybe a second and a couple of the others, but I don't see a first round for Matthew Stafford, dude. There's no way.

Raider Wil (17:10.333)
This is-

James (TBH Military Chapter) (17:14.538)
I would rather test my chances grabbing Justin Fields or Russell Wilson.

Allin (17:21.09)
Fuck Russell Wilson, I'll take fields all day though.

Raider Wil (17:24.253)
I agree with James there. I'm like if it comes down to okay us having to trade a first round pick Give all this cash up. I'll be like, I know we had brother scream on here, but I'm telling you right now fuck no Fuck no to give up the first round pick give up 50 million dollars Give up all this. We're not one player away. We've said it before It makes no

Matty B (17:41.697)
Yeah, no.

Raider Wil (17:53.134)
logical sense. I'll be like, but to draft a, and to have them and then say, Hey, okay. So what do we do with the six pick guys? Because like, let's be real. Okay. So Matthew Stafford is not on the plate if we're talking like this, right? If they're saying, Hey, we're not going to give up the first, then we're going to draft the quarterback at the six pick, right? Are we all on board with that?

Allin (18:18.774)
Yeah, I'm gonna stick with what I've been saying. I think Tom Brady wants Shadora Sanders and I think that's gonna be who's gonna lead the Raiders next year. I truly believe it. I've been saying it since we didn't take a quarterback last year. I've been saying it. I've been on record several times throughout the season.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (18:29.521)
Thank

Raider Wil (18:30.983)
my god!

Allin (18:43.264)
I told you, I still think it's gonna be Shador. I really do, man. At the end of the day, think Shador falls to six and I think we take him.

Matty B (18:54.219)
So I see that I seen a thing today. If we were to trade with the Browns, it was a first round, a second round, and a third round pick this year for him was the was the. Second pick. Second pick it so if you can't trade with anybody else and you got you got.

Allin (19:02.481)
Why the fuck would we trade with the Browns though because... Shenora's...

Raider Wil (19:03.245)
No. Oh my gosh, there he is! There he is!

Allin (19:10.375)
Well, you're not going to need the trade to get him. Shroud is going to fall. Like he's him, him not throwing at the combine hurt his chances. And maybe that's what he's doing. Maybe he's fucking pushing his way to the Raiders.

Raider Wil (19:20.797)
No, no, no, no, no, bro. That's pro day stuff. Quarterbacks never throw at the combine unless they got stuff to make up.

Allin (19:26.149)
Yeah, but everybody's saying that for him, everybody's saying for him, that is a terrible move.

Raider Wil (19:32.037)
Why though? Every other quarterback does it.

Matty B (19:32.368)
It might be, but there ain't no way he gets past those top five teams that need a quarterback.

Allin (19:33.745)
Because he's not, he's not solidified. He's not like Caleb Williams last year who's solidified as the number one pick, right? Caleb didn't have to throw because everybody already knew where Caleb was going. They're saying, they're saying Shador, Cam's throwing, they haven't said that Cam's not throwing.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (19:46.366)
Thank you.

Raider Wil (19:49.501)
But neither does Cam Warrant!

Raider Wil (19:56.274)
No, no, no, but I'm just saying he's not solidified as the number one pick either.

Allin (20:01.371)
Right, and that's exactly their point, is there's no quarterback who's not solidified. So, Shador just left the door open for Jackson Dart to scoot up past him. And I actually, said that to somebody the other day, I said, don't be surprised, I said this about a month ago to my kid, if Jackson Dart gets taken before Shador Sanders. And everyone's like, you're fucking crazy. I said, I'm not, watch.

Matty B (20:11.506)
Thanks.

Raider Wil (20:15.517)
What to do?

Raider Wil (20:23.101)
Dude, I'm telling you right now, guys, Jackson Dart, he's legit. I mean, like, dude, he's legit. He plays in the SEC. He's going to be a great quarterback in this league.

Allin (20:31.419)
He's gonna be a good quarterback. Is he gonna be? Is he gonna be Jayden Daniels? I don't think so. I think Jayden Daniels is gonna be a generational talent. I said that before he got drafted last year. I've been saying that for

Raider Wil (20:40.517)
yeah you said that you did you did say that he said generational talent and i didn't believe him and i'm not even like yeah hey that maybe we you get that you said too small he's like too fragile i thought hey you better calm down before we get that rg3 syndrome syndrome over there and then freaking

James (TBH Military Chapter) (20:43.167)
Thanks.

Allin (20:46.515)
I got, how much shit did I get talked? I got talked so much shit.

Matty B (20:46.556)
And I said too small. said too small. He's too little. He's going to get hurt. Broken half.

Allin (20:54.097)
How many times this year did I say, is he still too small?

Hey, he went, hey, he took a four-win club to 12.

Matty B (21:03.556)
Yeah. you were spot on.

Raider Wil (21:03.729)
You ain't So

Allin (21:05.361)
No, but I still think man, truly believe that it's gonna be Shador. I really do. I've always thought that when we didn't get our guy last year. And I think that's the guy Tom wants. I really do.

Matty B (21:17.287)
So my only thing like, cause you got Tennessee, you got Cleveland and you got New York Giants. Okay, so if Tennessee takes Camp Ward, if Tennessee takes Camp Ward, I guarantee, I think if they go Camp Ward.

Allin (21:22.779)
Yeah, Tennessee is gonna take.

Allin (21:29.949)
Tennessee's not so good.

Raider Wil (21:32.593)
Hey, I betcha, so James, we've talked about this, right? We talked about the Kam Ward thing. Guys, I have a buddy who works with the Titans, right? And I asked him and I said, what do you think? He said, hey, to be truthful, they don't feel like there's a quarterback that is worth the first pick in the draft.

Allin (21:55.475)
which is why they're gonna trade it or take Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter.

Raider Wil (21:59.448)
Hey, so that is exactly what he said, right? So then let's say,

Allin (22:03.981)
And I don't think the Browns take a quarterback either. They're gonna take whoever the Titans don't take if the Titans keep the pick.

Raider Wil (22:09.797)
Hey, so let's say this. All right, let's go through it metaphorically speaking right now first round pick No quarterback is drafted the Titans select Yeah, the first the first pick the Titans would select Abdul Carter, right? Best player right now probably best a position player wise Let's play in the draft

Allin (22:20.315)
Are you talking about the number one pick? Yes, okay, okay. The first pick in the draft.

I think that's what they're gonna do.

Allin (22:33.72)
They're saying he's the best player in the draft.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (22:34.378)
I think they're taking Travis Hunter.

Raider Wil (22:39.453)
Could be. Okay. Say Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, something like that, right? The Giants, we already know, they're taking... So the Browns go at two, but the Browns just restructured with Deshaun Watson. They didn't cut him. They restructured.

Allin (22:46.114)
Well the Browns are at 2, so the Browns are next.

Allin (22:57.655)
Well, they didn't cut them because they can't. They gotta pay them regardless.

Matty B (22:59.917)
Yeah, they can't. That'd be worse. Worse than the Boppa release than Russell Wilson.

Raider Wil (23:01.917)
They let the family guard lose cases guaranteed. So what does that tell you though? Would you draft a quarterback? No, you're gonna draft another skill player. So let's say two skill players are gone, Abdul Carter and you. Okay. Let's see James.

Allin (23:04.941)
They don't got Walmart money.

Yeah, they're taking a... No.

Allin (23:19.565)
Hunter and Carter are going be one and two.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (23:27.347)
I think if the Browns don't take a quarterback, I think they're going to take Ashton Gentry.

Raider Wil (23:32.357)
Okay, hey, asked you genty could be asking genty another skill guy off the board

James (TBH Military Chapter) (23:36.798)
Because their offense runs around Nick Chubb. But Nick Chubb beat up, so he's at the ease near the end of his career.

Allin (23:37.121)
Which means Nick Chubb could be on the run. I'd sign Nick Chubb.

Raider Wil (23:41.01)
Yeah

Raider Wil (23:46.046)
It depends on the contract. I definitely give them a look. But okay, so then that goes to three to the Giants, right? Cam Ward goes to the Giants Then we go to four we're three picks away from drafting a quarterback, right? Page bits, you know, they'll draft the skill guy

Allin (23:49.514)
I'm taking it, Joe.

Allin (23:54.604)
I can't more to go.

Allin (24:02.966)
which is the Patriots, they're not taking a quarterback. They're gonna take McMillan, give Drake May a weapon.

Raider Wil (24:10.621)
Okay, so they take McMillan.

They go to five. Who's the fifth?

Allin (24:16.662)
Who is five?

James (TBH Military Chapter) (24:19.038)
I think five might be Abdulkar.

Allin (24:21.396)
No, who's Abdul Carter be gone before five?

Raider Wil (24:22.602)
Who's drafted into the field? Jacksonville. They are not going to draft the quarterback. They got sunshine.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (24:23.078)
Jacksonville.

Allin (24:27.274)
Yeah, they're not taking a quarterback.

Raider Wil (24:31.975)
So, and I agree with James, they're gonna take a skill guy. That means Shadura Sanders, Jackson Dart fall to the Raiders at six. You're sitting there as the GM. I wanna know if this happens where Jackson Dart and Shadura Sanders are sitting on your draft board, I wanna know what you do if you're Mark Davis. Matty B, I'm gonna start with you.

Allin (24:36.396)
I'm gonna take a defensive player.

Raider Wil (25:01.157)
Who do you draft? And why?

Matty B (25:05.49)
He's sitting there and you got a Shador Sanders. You take Shador Sanders only because of his ties to Tom Brady and everything else. So, I mean, that's the only reason why I would say Shador Sanders because of that relationship that they have. I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind Jackson Dart. I like Jackson Dart. I think he's a great fucking football player and I think he's going to go good and far in this fucking league. But I honestly think if it's Shador and Jackson Dart sitting there at number six and they're both waiting there.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (25:27.754)
Thank

Matty B (25:34.054)
With the ties to Tom Brady and everything else, I think it goes to Shador.

Raider Wil (25:40.391)
James.

Raider Wil (25:44.157)
He laughs! He's just like, are you for real right now, bro? Go ahead, go ahead.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (25:50.526)
Yeah, obviously, but they're both available. I mean, let me start by saying, I'd be happy with either one. Let me start by saying that. I'd be happy with either one. But I do think if they're both available, I think you just take Sanders, man, because I just think, to me, it just makes the most sense. When you put connect all the dots and the puzzle pieces and who does what and where does Shador hang out in the off season? Who is he talking to? Who's his connections with? It all goes back to Tom.

I just think that's what makes sense. I think Tom, and I think a lot of NFL teams might agree with this statement, but I think Tom Brady might be the only NFL owner who possesses the capability of truly making Shadr or Sanders a top level NFL town because he's the only person that knows Shadr or Sanders well enough to do so.

Raider Wil (26:46.085)
Wow, look at that inside from James baby get deep into it. All right, hey out Let us know bro

James (TBH Military Chapter) (26:50.762)
you

Allin (26:55.344)
Yeah, I'm with James. I'd be happy with either but if they're sitting there first of all, that's not gonna be market gonna mark's gonna mark's a yes, man now Whatever daddy Tom wants to do is what's gonna happen? It's gonna be fucking it'll be should or the time I mean he's been working like I've said a hundred times on here He's been working with should or since high school. He's a mentor to should or should or is gonna put fucking asses in the seats Raider fan asses in the seats

Raider Wil (27:25.277)
shit standings like James.

Allin (27:25.296)
and not opposing fans, right? He, It's just, man, and really outside of, if... And I've said it before on here, if Shador did not have the Sanders name, there wouldn't be a negative thing about him, right? He gets a lot of shit because he's fucking Prime's son. And no matter what, Shador has worked for what he's gotten.

The kid the kid works hard man, and if you guys haven't seen what Chris Carter had to say about Chador He jumped in an uber down at Super Bowl week He had a driver after Chador had him right so this guy drove Chador and his brother around for a week said said Chador his character man next level the kid is

James (TBH Military Chapter) (27:53.418)
Ha!

Allin (28:20.73)
Five minutes early, he's always on time, he's always looking out for his brother, making sure his brother's doing the right thing, making sure he's doing the right thing, not putting himself in shitty positions. He's just a high character guy and that was coming from a fucking driver to Chris Carter and Chris Carter made it known on, what, I forget which podcast it was or which show it was, but I mean, I think character, I think he's got it all, man. He's got some things to work on, but I think, like James said,

Anybody's gonna get it out of them, it's gonna be Brady.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (28:52.778)
Now, I'd like to just add something again. Just, there's something about the Raiders and the shield, right? And just that Raider-esque, right? And when you just pair that with Shadoor Sanders, just that swagger, man, just that swagger that it brings back to the huddle and that offense. That I'm gonna walk around, I'm gonna say what I want, I'm gonna do what I want, I'm gonna do...

Allin (29:12.837)
Exactly what I said, we need a quarterback with Moxie.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (29:21.64)
What I want for my team, I'm gonna say my want, I don't care what this reporter says, I don't care what this guy says, just that energy. To Raider fans, it's like a drug, you know?

Allin (29:38.915)
It's that, like I said before, that moxie, it's that swagger, like you said. When was the last time we had a quarterback with that stabler?

Raider Wil (29:48.807)
Dude, I don't...

Allin (29:49.548)
Like come on, it's just, like you said, it makes too much sense, man. I think that's, I think that'll be the pick, man. I really do. I think it'll, if it comes down to those two, Shannora would be a Raider. You better get your jersey.

James (TBH Military Chapter) (29:53.61)
Plunk it.

Raider Wil (29:54.983)
But.

Raider Wil (30:00.638)
I'm gonna be honest man Hey, I'm gonna tell you like this I'm gonna be honest and James knows bro, and I think everybody here knows I am NOT a big Chador fan

James (TBH Military Chapter) (30:01.864)
And I'll be on fanatic ready to buy the jersey at midnight.

Raider Wil (30:16.231)
But with the things that I just heard, the information that I'm getting here, okay?

Raider Wil (30:25.445)
I can't hate. I'd be like if we were to get this kid, okay? And he is a high character kid, as in, a guy that's a leader, a guy that's gonna come in and be like, yo, like take care of business, and he's gonna come in and like, you know, be like, do you need some walking around money, bitch? type of shit, you know? Like, hey, you guys remember that Will Ferrell movie?

Like if he gets that attitude where he's like, yo, like he goes back into Gator mode where he's a pimp. You know, he's a cop. So if he has, if he's on the field and he has to get in Gator mode. Okay. Yeah. So don't don't play.

Allin (30:56.835)
Yeah.

Matty B (31:05.587)
Jaden don't play.

Here, don't take no shit.

Allin (31:11.714)
And we know... Right.

Raider Wil (31:12.633)
Exactly, he goes so don't don't take no shit type of stuff. Hey, then hey I'm all about it because guess what? But if you are like that off the field and you are just like hey, you know what and you know what? I'll tell you what I'll and you said it correctly if he wasn't Prime's son There wouldn't be all this criticism around them and all this thought about the glitch and the glamour and you know What you ain't had to work for it because daddy gave it to you, right?

My thing is this, if he comes in and he just has that like pale man mentality and like I said Gator needs that walking around money and fuck it like he ain't taking those shit on the field that he's just taking names Then bro, go on with your bad self But if you go around and you have this deeper mentality, and you guys remember Dez Bryant? Mr. Throw up the Axe, had the big chains, had all this money, thought he was a badass mofo and guess where he ended up going? I don't-

After Dallas? No way.

So that's where I'm like yo, if you guys are correct I'll take Shadoura Sanders just for the fact that you guys had hit every single nail on the head. Tom Brady, the Raiders need a leader, a guy that's gonna be there on time to be there to hold others to a certain standard and to move them up in a positive direction on the offensive side of the ball. That's where you guys got me sold.

I'll be like, when you guys were like, hey man, this guy's a leader, this guy's come out, they say this about him, that's what I wanna hear. So, for me, that's what sold me. James, go ahead, send it in the mail when it comes down, cause he's like, well, I'ma get you a jersey when we draft them at six, I'ma send it to you, cause I know that you're gonna be rolling, dying inside. guys, Shadour Sanders is that type of guy,

Raider Wil (33:17.383)
Then we hit the, we got the bag for the draft.

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