Raider Scream (00:02.653)
Bye!
Raider Wil (00:09.299)
AND HE'S-
Welcome back to the silver and black radio podcast. I'm your host the Raider will and I am here with my crew I got my boy James. Let me know what you're representing, baby
James (00:25.966)
I'm representing the Black Hole Military Chapter. can follow us on all of our socials. Well, just Instagram, actually. You can follow us on Instagram at tbh__military__chapter. And you can follow me on my personal social at malibu__blackhole. Follow me before you follow screen. Matter of fact, don't follow screen. Just follow me.
Raider Scream (00:36.22)
Hey, Terz!
Raider Wil (00:52.205)
Alright Screech, brother let him know who you represent and where you at baby
Raider Scream (00:58.205)
I've just been here for a short little minute and everything. mean, just trying to come back out of like four or five year hiatus retirement stage. You know what saying? So I think it might fit into, you know, what we talk about as, you know, building. But sometimes you guys take a break. We right here in central Texas. You know what I'm saying? You come down, taste public grill, cool. Other than that, y'all know how.
contact me. everybody, we good.
Raider Wil (01:31.387)
Yes, sir. Yo today guys what we're gonna do is we're gonna answer the question Raiders coaching staff Upgrade downgrade sideways. No great whatever great. I want to know what you guys think I want to know what you guys are gonna let us know and what you guys see with TB's vision and Mark Davis You know brother James. We're gonna start with you. Here's with the baby
Raider Scream (01:59.391)
you
James (01:59.886)
Yeah, think everything about the coaching staff is an upgrade. I think it's hard to consider it a downgrade when you consider what you've watched the past two years. I mean, we haven't really accomplished anything since John Gruden left, know, Rich Visaccia. That was probably the you know, somewhat wholesome season we've seen. And even then it was a train wreck, but...
Raider Scream (02:25.619)
Okay.
James (02:28.206)
Yeah, I think everything about is an upgrade. think Pete Carroll is going to bring a winning culture. I think Chip Kelly is also another guy who's a certified winner. I think people all constantly forget that when the Eagles won that first Superbowl, know, Chip Kelly, you know, was a was a big part of building that team. You know what saying? He played some some factors in building that team towards that towards that point. So I feel like
I feel like honestly, this is going to bring us a winning culture. I feel like if there's anything that Pete Carroll knows how to do, it's going to be, it's going to be, ensure that the Raiders are going to play good defense and that they're going to run the ball aggressively and effectively. So those being said, I think, you know, that makes Pete Carroll a great hire. And then with the John Spytech, I think John Spytech just has a great track record.
Raider Scream (03:15.649)
Okay.
James (03:28.008)
especially in the draft and just managing the teams he's been a part of.
Raider Scream (03:36.334)
What you think about defense though, brother James?
James (03:40.142)
I think Patrick Graham has been solid. think he came into his own last year. think, I mean, it's just going to depend on what he does and how Pete Carroll wants to change the look. You know what saying? mean, we know what Patrick Graham accomplished under AP, but AP also isn't there no more. So it could be a completely different scheme.
Raider Scream (04:06.299)
May it interesting that you mention that because AP worked underneath Patrick
Raider Wil (04:18.438)
True, true, but I'd like...
James (04:19.67)
I I'm not completely sure.
Raider Scream (04:19.747)
Yeah
Raider Scream (04:23.508)
Yeah, okay, not to intervene. And there's subordinate coaches, running back coaches, cornerback coaches. There's a lot that have been acquired over this little short period of off season that we just started. But when it comes down to it, you had to go, you had to go bring somebody out of retirement.
Like I haven't podcasted for four or five years. You had to go bring Pete Carroll at retirement, which was so solid. So solid. That was the best.
Raider Wil (05:11.236)
Get this man's juice right now!
James (05:13.262)
Scream. Scream. Scream.
Raider Scream (05:13.313)
Okay.
Raider Wil (05:15.238)
after five years from podcasting to come back.
Scream! I'm gonna check your cup right now. We need to stop the madness. Alright? I'm gonna tell you right now. This is 100 % an upgrade!
Raider Scream (05:35.941)
Yeah.
Raider Wil (05:37.959)
Hey, yo, hey, I'm gonna tell you like this. I love my man AP. I don't know. You got a whole bunch of glitter. You got a whole bunch of stars over there, but I'm gonna tell you like this. It was too much for AP. When we made the jump for my Packers coach, two, hold on, two coach, it was a big jump. Now we bringing a guy.
Raider Scream (05:39.126)
Yeah.
Raider Scream (05:47.328)
Yeah.
Raider Scream (05:55.158)
And that, bro, brother with you.
Raider Wil (06:05.19)
that has 181 wins! 181 wins! He has more than the past 14 coaches combined for the Rangers.
James (06:07.47)
.
Raider Scream (06:11.753)
That's a lot!
Raider Scream (06:18.74)
Yeah, right. Statistics and numbers and all that stuff. I feel it. I understand it. I pay attention to it and everything like that. But Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll, he has a winning vibe to him.
James (06:20.428)
Hold on, hold on.
Alright, scream.
James (06:30.734)
screen.
Raider Wil (06:36.192)
He is! He's a-
Raider Scream (06:38.409)
So if people don't want to be on the upside, well, they're going to be on the other side, which, yeah, I would say that, you know, yo, what's up, bro?
James (06:38.414)
screen.
Raider Wil (06:45.934)
What's up?
James (06:47.342)
Scream. Scream.
James (06:53.816)
Let me ask him, what's something Chip Kelly and Pete Carroll both haven't come?
Raider Scream (06:58.421)
They both won national championships
James (07:01.629)
Exactly, they're both winners. When's the last time AP won something?
Raider Scream (07:04.484)
no!
Raider Wil (07:04.634)
No!
Raider Scream (07:08.199)
Yeah, yeah, that's why I'm saying, as long as
Raider Wil (07:11.063)
You f***ing f***ing
James (07:11.232)
as a coach. We're talking, you're talking about AP, you're talking about a guy who's a better fan than he is a coach. Realistically.
Raider Wil (07:22.694)
I'm not gonna go as far as to say the man is a better fan than he is a coach because I'd be like you and I like would you know that the guy knows football but to be able to coach it at that level and be proficient
James (07:34.828)
now.
James (07:39.051)
Now.
James (07:43.978)
Now, I will say I advocated, I did advocate for AP to get an opportunity because I do believe in people getting their shot. now, but, now let me, now let me tell you, even though I advocated that, from the start of that first preseason game, when I saw AP taking timeouts and not pushing the ball downfield, I knew there was gonna be an issue. From the second preseason game,
Raider Scream (07:49.588)
I... I... I did it. I did it. I did...
Raider Wil (07:53.318)
Guilty! Guilty!
James (08:12.984)
When I saw him taking timeouts and leaving 14 seconds on the clock in the second half and not running a plate or trying to get downfield and get three before half, I knew it was gonna be a problem because that habit carried from week one all the way through week 18.
Raider Scream (08:15.217)
Yeah.
Raider Wil (08:32.292)
Hey, so, hey, I'm gonna follow with this, okay? Brother Scream, go ahead. Go ahead, Brother Scream.
Raider Scream (08:35.907)
He got that map. I got it. Oh, yes.
Raider Wil (08:41.606)
Yo, I'm gonna agree with you 100%. Look, but we should have known this, and this is where Raider Nation also needs to be aware that with the rookie head coach, rookie mistakes will be made. But we didn't see any development on that side from the coaching staff. Questionable calls where you were throwing the red flag, saying, hey, we're gonna challenge this, but we're not gonna challenge the play that was previous. That was obvious.
Raider Scream (09:10.926)
Nah.
Raider Wil (09:12.282)
You know, things like that.
Raider Scream (09:15.225)
Yeah, I got you. good good good man. I Got both y'all trust me. But the thing is Like hey, he was kind of like if I was a P if And I'm not I'm me If I was a P I would never even took the job. I would have been like
Thank you for offering to me, but I don't want the job. I would have put it, if I had that much love for the silver and black and the writers and the legacy and what we just win, baby, I would have said as AP, if I was AP, but I'm not, I'm me, I would have said, thank you, but no.
James (09:49.698)
Beggars can't be choosers though, Scream.
Raider Wil (09:51.974)
Dump, dump.
Raider Scream (10:12.496)
Thank you. And I would have went out as a winning head coach, intern, but a winning head coach.
Raider Wil (10:21.978)
and I'm gonna say something right here scream kinda like hit a nail on the head on this go around the Raiders job was not the sexiest jump I'd be like let's be real out of all the jobs that you guys saw out there the Raiders job is the most difficult job on the market we don't have a quarterback we're in the sixth pick we've had dysfunctional leadership up top
all these factors factored into that and that's why I thought Pete Kell was the upgrade! I'm telling you guys right now man! Hey let's not like get it crazy here. Yo I love AP great guy. He did a lot of dude, he motivated the nation, we came out here, we were all screaming Raiders, we were all thugged out, we all love the low rules but you know what?
Raider Scream (11:02.003)
Yeah.
James (11:02.668)
So.
Raider Scream (11:16.815)
Yeah.
Raider Wil (11:22.146)
If Pete Carroll comes down and he's driving down in his freaking Cadillac with no rims, no nothing, but we're getting W's, ain't nobody gonna give a shit what he drives. Ain't nobody gonna care that he comes with the freaking in a wheelchair, nothing. The man is a winner. Bro, he's bringing a winning culture and we need to realize that this is an upgrade.
James (11:48.118)
Now... Now, hold on.
Raider Wil (11:49.722)
This is the guy that we needed. Ben Johnson was the sexy pick. But you know what? We were the ugly girl at the prom, bro.
James (11:58.478)
But let me put this in the retrospect because I don't think Scream is understanding. Scream, I don't think what you understand based off of what Mark Davis said is Ben Johnson was never the guy. He was never the option. And the reason Ben Johnson was never the option, hold on, the only reason Ben Johnson was never the option was because Ben Johnson wants to go up.
Raider Scream (12:07.329)
Yeah
Raider Scream (12:18.944)
Here is the...
James (12:27.968)
and beat Dan Campbell and prove that he could beat that he made Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell did not make him. That is why. I think that's the reason. I think that's the reason.
Raider Wil (12:36.07)
I don't know. I so I'm gonna tell you like this Hey, so hey, I like that James. Hey
Raider Scream (12:39.373)
Lord. I don't like saying to... No, no, no. Let me put this out there for the Please. Let me put this out there for the world since you... Yeah, yeah, yeah. You put something in there, James. I don't need to see this person's balls or this person's balls. Like, I got my own balls.
Raider Wil (12:48.4)
Go head screen, go head screen!
James (12:53.794)
Grab your whiteboard to ride on.
Raider Scream (13:13.74)
There's choices to be made for the better of one organization. So just win baby. Let's go.
James (13:23.714)
Okay let me ask you this Scream. Let me ask you this Scream. If you didn't want Pete Carroll who was your guy?
Raider Wil (13:24.622)
No, no, hey, but I'm gonna say this. Hey James, hold on
Raider Scream (13:32.585)
shit. Well, me and you went through multiple conversations over the time, James, bro. Come on, don't get this confused. I remember enough to remember enough. This is what I tell you from the beginning. As soon as January hit or whenever. When it's done for most and only a couple are going forward. Okay? So.
It's like the most logical choice is Pete Carroll. Does he want to come out of retirement?
I'm out of retirement. Four or five years of not podcasting and I'm right here. So I don't see it being a problem, but the most logical choice is to bring Pete Carroll out of retirement if he want to win with the Raiders, the silver and black baby. But the best choice would have been the little boy blue.
Right? Ben Johnson, right?
Raider Wil (14:45.862)
That's what we disagree no
Raider Scream (14:47.562)
That would have been, that would have been the choice. No, but I'm not saying it's my best choice. I don't, I don't work off favoritism, bruh. Brothers, y'all, y'all should know me better than, longer than one day. I don't work off best or least. I work off logic and whatever the hell was trailing behind that.
Raider Wil (15:15.654)
Ha
Raider Scream (15:18.109)
Pete Carroll was the best man, the best... It could have been a woman competing against Pete Carroll. It don't matter. Pete Carroll was the dude to hire. My godbrother, my godbrother Mark Davis, you did a good job because your daddy Al Davis is my godfather. all I'm saying is, you did a good job, finally.
Raider Wil (15:18.305)
I feel dumb jump
Raider Wil (15:31.93)
Alright!
Raider Scream (15:48.892)
Bye!
Raider Wil (15:50.512)
Yo, Brother James, leave us off with your final thoughts.
James (15:56.622)
So I just, I've been a little confused, Scream, on how you recognize that Pete Carroll is the logical choice, but you're unhappy with the logical choice. But you seem a little tense, but that's okay because when Pete Carroll wins, you'll come back around. So my question is...
Raider Scream (16:06.856)
I'm not, I'm not unhappy.
Raider Scream (16:16.601)
I'm not unhappy about PK. I'm happy with all the damn choices in the coaching staff.
Raider Wil (16:24.067)
Alright, alright!
Raider Scream (16:26.766)
and I and I
James (16:27.224)
So.
James (16:30.894)
I just I I just don't understand how binge and I and I understand that yes, and I agree that Ben Johnson was The hottest candidate because he has the highest ceiling But the fact of the matter is that there there was no cementing that Ben Johnson was gonna fix the team There's no there's honestly there's sir. There's there's no there's no way to certify that a
Raider Scream (16:52.187)
Ben Johnson was another guy. Ben Johnson was the opportunity. And Chicago's gonna see that. Chicago's gonna see that real quick.
James (17:01.696)
Okay, so I think Chicago is going to be at least an eight-win team with Ben Johnson this season. Anyways.
Raider Scream (17:09.859)
Okay, was what?
Raider Wil (17:11.312)
Whoa Whoa He said at least an eight went. Hey, let's mark. What's the date today? Hey 214 2025 with a dance bring a Eight and eight Chicago Bears next year, man
Raider Scream (17:18.18)
I don't think so.
Raider Scream (17:22.244)
Yeah,
James (17:29.354)
Minimum, at minimum. That's the floor.
Raider Scream (17:30.438)
Well, they would be, they would be 8 and... Yeah, they would either be 8 and 10 or...
James (17:37.982)
Let me tell you what's gonna happen. think the lions are gonna go back into being a shell themselves. probably gonna bust. about, I think, no. The lions are gonna be seven and 10 or less.
Raider Scream (17:43.472)
Quit thinking, James. James. Bro, quit thinking. Start knowing. Start knowing, bro. There's a difference between thinking and knowing,
James (17:56.598)
Well, I know that Pete Carroll found Marshawn Lynch and I know that Marshawn Lynch didn't come in the first round of Ash and Gentie like your protege.
Raider Scream (18:03.748)
glad you mentioned his.
Okay.
okay. I'm so glad you mentioned Marshawn. My brother is in the bank. So, I guarantee Marshawn would doggone vouch for Aston.
Raider Wil (18:09.68)
Now why should I use Westrap in the first?
Raider Wil (18:16.666)
But yeah.
Raider Wil (18:27.942)
Guys all right guys hey What I want you guys to do is make sure you guys like share subscribe Make sure you guys comment. Let us know if you think this is an upgrade downgrade Sideways if you agree with my boys scream you agree with my boy James. Hey It's all about one nation. It's all about one team. It's all about the
Raider Scream (18:45.24)
Thanks for watching.
Raider Wil (18:56.046)
REEEE
